Re: OT: "Every American"...

From	Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: OT: "Every American"...
Date	2017-02-08 19:05 -0800
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On 2017-02-08 6:37 PM, FPP wrote:
> On 2017-02-08 18:46:15 -0500, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> said:
>
>> On 2/8/17, 4:38 PM, in article o7ga37$kjs$1@dont-email.me, "FPP"
>> <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-02-08 14:54:16 -0500, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> said:
>>>
>>>> On 2/8/17, 12:18 PM, in article
>>>> 080220171418450383%nospam@nospam.invalid,
>>>> "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <D4C0B787.8F1B2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Faced with the choice of believing the FBI or you, there is no
>>>>>>>>>> contest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the fbi is not immune to corruption and comey has also lied
>>>>>>>>> under oath.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quote this lie...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i watched him testify before congress for the apple-doj/fbi and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> clinton debacle. within minutes, he lied in both, under oath
>>>>>>>>> and in
>>>>>>>>> front of congress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's not a lie. watch/listen to his testimony before congress,
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> he contradicts himself numerous times, *under* *oath*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such as...???
>>>>>
>>>>> comey claimed under oath that the fbi 'tried everything' to unlock the
>>>>> san bernardino shooter's iphone. that was false. they did not try
>>>>> everything. he lied.
>>>>>
>>>>> he also said under oath that only apple could unlock it and if they
>>>>> could have unlocked it without apple's help, they would have done so
>>>>> rather than file a lawsuit. another lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> then a few weeks after the hearing, the fbi suddenly 'found' a way by
>>>>> contracting with a well established forensics company.
>>>>>
>>>>> why didn't they contact this company *before* the lawsuit?
>>>>>
>>>>> clearly they had not tried everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> comey also asked for people to call the fbi to help them unlock the
>>>>> phone because maybe someone out there has an idea they had not tried.
>>>>> that was pure bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> it turns out that several very knowledgeable people already had called
>>>>> the fbi offering to assist them, including members of the iphone dev
>>>>> team (who come up with the jailbreaks) and jonathan zdziarski, one of
>>>>> the top ios security people on the planet (who also commented on the
>>>>> fbi's numerous contradictions and completely bogus claims) only to be
>>>>> told that the fbi had no interest in outside help.
>>>>>
>>>>> there were several other instances during his many hours long
>>>>> testimony
>>>>> where what he said either did not match reality or it contradicted
>>>>> what
>>>>> he had previously said, either prior to the hearing, during the
>>>>> hearing
>>>>> itself or in the legal briefs that were filed (which also had many of
>>>>> their own false claims).
>>>>>
>>>>> when people make easily disproven claims and have stories that keep
>>>>> changing, you know you're dealing with liars.
>>>>>
>>>>> he lied under oath. simple as that.
>>>>
>>>> I did not watch that testimony, but when people say they have tried
>>>> everything it is not meant to be taken literally. I doubt, for
>>>> example, they
>>>> did shamanic rituals or sang lullabies to it.
>>>
>>> He's nuts, you know...
>>>
>>> When asked if Comey had finished his lunch, he said "Yes.  I ate
>>> everything".
>>>
>>> Another obvious lie, as he had not actually eaten "everything".  I know
>>> because I also ate afterward, and I had plenty!
>>
>> He was asked to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
>> truth.
>> He did not tell ALL truths... thus not the whole truth. He lied!
>>
>> What is amazing is Clinton supporters loved him when he opted to not
>> indict.
>> At first I was not happy with that decision but before attacking him I
>> listened to the testimony. While I can see where others would disagree, I
>> found it convincing and -- even though it was not the outcome I wanted
>> -- I
>> defended him as seemingly honorable. Clinton supporters loved it.
>>
>> But then I noted what he actually said... they do not like that much.
>
> Comey violated Justice Department rules.  More than once.  He commented
> on an ongoing case, he made a public statement, he addressed Congress,
> and sent follow-up letters in violation of Justice Dept regs and direct
> advice from his superiors and watchdogs.
>
> And, yet, when he had info on Trump weeks before the Hillary matter, he
> refused to make any of it known because he thought it was too close to
> the election and might sway voters and public opinion.
>
> The EXACT opposite of what he did with the Clinton info.
> He's a Republican, and he acted like it.  He has ZERO credibility any more.

As an interesting point...

If James Comey acted so very badly with bias in favour of Clinton...

...why does he still have his job?

<https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/us/politics/trump-comey-fbi-director-.html>

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Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:19 -0500
  Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
    Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:38 -0500
      Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:38 -0800
          Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-08 13:46 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 11:54 -0700
              Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-08 14:18 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 12:54 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:38 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:46 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:37 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-08 19:05 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-08 20:08 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:14 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-09 09:55 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:36 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-08 11:23 -0800
            Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:35 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:35 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 18:09 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-09 17:09 -0700

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