Re: OT: "Every American"...

From	Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: OT: "Every American"...
Date	2017-02-05 15:50 -0800
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In article <58976d25$0$61729$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 2017-02-05 11:28, Tim Streater wrote:
> 
> > Well that's how the electoral college works, isn't it. 
> 
> Yes. And if I am not mistaken, giving the power to choose the president
> to some 540 smart people would shield the USA from an unqualified
> candidate elected by uneducated populace. (think back to 1776).
> 
> It is pretty clear that the pressure to reflect the votes in each state
> is far greater than pressure to ensure only qualified people are named
> president.

It is not "pressure" on US electors that causes them to vote for the
candidate that got the most votes in their state. It is the fact that
the electors are long-time, loyal members of their party. Each party
nominates a slate of electors, and the electors for the party that wins
the popular vote in the state vote in the electoral college election
(on Dec 19 last year).

In 27 states, electors must vote for the candidate getting the most
votes. Seven electors on Dec 19 cast a vote for someone other than the
popular vote winner in their state (or district in Maine and Nebraska).

<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/what-is-the-electoral-college_
n_2078970.html>

> 
> So if the electoral college cannot play a "sanity assurance" role to
> weed out unqualified presidents, then it isn't needed.
> 
> There is however a simple reform that can fix this: do like Maine where
> there is no "winner takes all" at state level. So if there is 40/60
> split,in votes, then there is a 40/60 split in electoral college voters
> from that state.

Not according to FairVote.org:

<http://www.fairvote.org/maine_nebraska>

> 
> As I recall, this is a state level decision so changing this woudl not
> require change to constitution.

Correct. There is another possibility for state-by-state reform:

<http://www.nationalpopularvote.com>

-- 
Jim Gibson

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                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:39 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:30 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 21:18 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-09 13:58 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 09:50 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-10 08:59 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-09 09:25 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 18:08 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-08 09:10 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 20:02 -0600
                Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-08 23:43 +0100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-08 16:48 -0700
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-07 18:55 +0000
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 18:21 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-02-07 18:38 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 23:00 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-08 14:49 +1100
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:28 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:29 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:46 -0600
          Re: OT: "Every American"... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-05 13:21 -0500
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 15:50 -0800
          Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:30 -0600
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-06 09:57 +0000
              Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-06 21:13 -0600
            Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
    Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-04 18:52 +0100
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-04 18:15 +0000
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-04 21:15 +0000
          Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-04 22:15 +0000
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-05 16:22 +0000
              Re: OT: "Every American"... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-05 16:38 +0000
      Re: OT: "Every American"... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-02-05 01:52 -0500
        Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-05 16:55 +0100
  Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-04 16:15 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-02-04 17:45 -0600
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:49 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-04 18:10 -0800
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:53 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-02-04 20:24 -0800
      Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-04 21:34 -0800
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-02-04 22:53 -0800
          Re: OT: "Every American"... "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2017-02-05 17:01 +0100
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Lloyd Parsons <email@domain.com> - 2017-02-05 10:39 -0600
            Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-05 15:14 -0500
              Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:55 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-06 19:35 -0800
                Re: OT: "Every American"... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-07 21:03 -0500
                Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:41 -0500
          Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 18:01 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-05 06:23 -0500
  Re: OT: "Every American"... "Ed H." <phoney@bogus.com> - 2017-02-08 11:02 -0600
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-08 17:22 +0000

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