Re: Installing on one machine, using in another..

From	Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Organization	Deepwoods Software
Subject	Re: Installing on one machine, using in another..
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Date	2016-02-22 12:00 -0600

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At Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:09:52 -0000 (UTC) William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> 
> On 2016-02-22, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > My Atom based (headless, 64bit) server (Intel graphics) is getting full 
> 
> How is it headless and have graphics?

There is an Intel graphics chip on the motherboard, but there is no monitor 
connected.  It is nearly *impossible* to buy or build an x86 computer 
*without* a graphics card or chip.  *Even purpose built server machines* have 
graphics hardware and won't boot with out a graphics card or chip (they are 
happy to function without a monitor though or without GUI software installed).

> 
> > and needs more disk and possibly a new case and power supply.
> >
> > the motherboard has only two SATA connectors, and no DVD at all - just 
> > two large disks.
> 
> usb input? Easy enough to put the distro installation on a usb.
> 
> >
> > Therefore it would be mightily convenient to install onto a new primary 
> > disk on another machine - that would be an Celeron (64 bit), with Nvidia 
> > graphics
> 
> Since it has graphics why not just plug in a monitor and usb install
> onthe atom?
> 
> >
> > Would it actually be reasonable to build the machine on the second MB 
> > and then slide the disk into the first and expect it to boot?
> 
> It would probably be tricky since most installation scripts look at what
> they are being installed on, and adjust accordingly.

And most of the time, the boot up detects changes in hardware and update
things as needed. For the most part core boot stuff is pretty hardware
agnostic these days. Most modern SATA controllers speak AHCI, so the ahci kmod
pretty much covers everything. Once you can past mounting the root file
system, you are almost always golden. Only picky things like the GUI (not
generally an issue for a server) and NICs (which can be fixed post-boot from
the console) remain. Also possibly sound (and gennerally not an issue for a
server). 'Broken' NIC, GUI, and sound are not boot stoppers. The main boot
stopper is 'Kernel panic: can't mount root file system' types of issues and
that is usually a driver issue (see above).

> 
> >
> > Would there be any foreseeable gotchas?
> >
> >
> > Also, bearing in mind that this is the 21st century and its a private 
> > network, what is the simplest way of getting an X-window session on the 
> > server in a windows on this desktop?
> 
> A full session, or just X programs running on the desktop GUI?
> The latter is easy-- just ssh in and run the X program. The former I do
> not know. 
> 
> 
> >
> > Lint Mint 17 in all cases.
> >
> >
>                                                                    

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Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 14:02 +0000
  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-02-22 17:09 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:25 +0000
      Welcome to Usenet (Was: Installing on one machine, using in another..) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2016-02-22 17:32 +0000
        Re: Welcome to Usenet (Was: Installing on one machine, using in another..) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:44 +0000
        Re: Welcome to Usenet (Was: Installing on one machine, using in another..) JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-02-22 16:07 -0600
          Re: Welcome to Usenet (Was: Installing on one machine, using in another..) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-23 10:21 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-02-22 09:56 -0800
        Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 18:06 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-22 12:00 -0600
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-02-22 18:29 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-22 12:00 -0600
  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-22 11:36 -0600
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:43 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Trenbidia <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-23 00:25 +0000
  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-22 18:09 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 18:17 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-23 16:50 +0000
        Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-23 18:34 +0000
          Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-23 15:23 -0600
            Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Trenbidia <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-23 23:52 +0000
          Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-24 01:27 +0000
            Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-23 20:39 -0600
              Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-24 08:35 +0000
              Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-24 18:09 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-02-24 20:18 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-25 06:56 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "john" <z@z.z> - 2016-02-25 11:56 -0800
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-26 17:47 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 00:14 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-27 08:36 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-27 18:30 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-27 21:37 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-28 04:22 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-28 15:14 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-28 17:19 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-28 19:36 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-28 21:33 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-28 23:07 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another..  totally off topic now!! "john" <z@z.z> - 2016-02-29 09:36 -0800
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. totally off topic now!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-29 23:52 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. totally off topic now!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-01 00:38 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-29 17:08 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-03-01 00:09 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-03-01 00:29 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-03-01 01:57 +0100
  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2016-02-22 18:38 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 18:44 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2016-02-22 20:24 +0000

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