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| Started by | root <NoEMail@home.org> |
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| First post | 2024-11-19 17:09 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-11-20 18:53 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 842 — 23 participants |
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Joy of this, Joy of that root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2024-11-19 17:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-20 00:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2024-11-20 02:33 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-20 02:52 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-20 04:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-20 03:37 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-20 15:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-20 16:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-21 02:20 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-21 08:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Bozo User <anthk@disroot.org> - 2025-01-14 12:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-21 13:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2024-11-21 20:19 -0700
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 05:51 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-22 23:57 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 05:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-23 20:23 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-24 02:06 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-24 00:16 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-24 05:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-23 11:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-23 19:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-11-23 13:46 -0700
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-24 14:33 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 21:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-23 20:17 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-24 05:26 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-24 14:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-24 14:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-24 17:00 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-24 22:07 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 02:12 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-25 10:55 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-25 12:04 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-25 22:20 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 23:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-26 10:10 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-26 10:24 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-26 13:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-26 09:15 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-27 09:34 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-26 18:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-26 21:58 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-27 01:38 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-27 01:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-27 10:10 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-27 11:58 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-27 19:12 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-28 09:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-25 21:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-27 01:39 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-27 22:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-27 22:46 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-28 05:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-28 02:56 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-28 08:52 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 04:48 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-29 19:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-28 21:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 05:06 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-29 18:06 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-30 00:16 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-30 06:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 06:53 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-30 09:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-30 23:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-01 04:19 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-01 11:21 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-01 16:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-02 23:28 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 18:41 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-02 00:37 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-01 20:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-02 23:57 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 21:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-02 23:58 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 10:51 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 19:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 19:26 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-05 01:03 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-05 10:25 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 01:13 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 07:43 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 10:12 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 02:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 22:59 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:32 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-07 16:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 18:39 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:35 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:43 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:12 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-08 03:02 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 08:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-08 16:33 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-08 18:19 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 11:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 21:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 12:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-12-08 04:45 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 12:53 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 03:05 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:26 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-07 10:15 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 16:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-07 12:44 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:30 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 18:24 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 20:16 +0000
Re: The Joy Of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 00:03 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:19 +0100
Re: The Joy Of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 22:41 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:29 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 22:40 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 04:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 10:06 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 23:27 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:40 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 02:05 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 13:39 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-09 01:22 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:28 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:58 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 21:53 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 20:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-10 04:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:07 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:52 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 22:06 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:38 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:49 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-13 04:56 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 02:20 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:38 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:42 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:41 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 11:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:01 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:48 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:40 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:34 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-14 05:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 13:08 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:51 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:15 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 11:39 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 20:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:07 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 08:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 08:13 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 01:55 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 07:53 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:45 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:38 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:53 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:28 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-05 20:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 23:33 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-07 07:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 02:44 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-29 21:42 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-30 00:19 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-30 06:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-01 03:39 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-01 09:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-01 11:08 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-01 20:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-02 07:13 +1000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-01 23:26 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-02 01:06 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-28 05:52 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-28 02:47 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-11-25 19:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-26 07:09 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-26 19:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 09:02 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-02 18:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-02 23:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-03 00:59 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-02 23:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-03 00:53 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-24 22:06 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-25 08:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-25 10:58 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-21 17:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-20 08:10 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-20 16:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-20 17:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-20 19:02 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-20 21:05 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-11-20 23:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-20 23:58 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-11-21 01:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-21 02:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-11-22 20:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-21 08:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-21 10:45 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-21 23:04 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-21 20:31 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-22 03:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-22 01:25 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-22 18:53 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 21:04 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-22 10:35 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-22 13:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-22 19:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 21:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-23 07:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-22 23:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 00:44 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-23 01:08 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 01:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-23 08:26 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-23 11:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 21:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-23 23:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-24 00:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-24 21:19 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-24 22:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-24 05:01 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-24 21:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-24 22:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-25 11:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-25 21:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 01:43 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-25 10:53 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 19:42 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-25 23:21 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 23:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-26 10:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-26 19:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-26 21:59 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 15:21 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-02 23:28 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 03:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-24 19:35 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-25 00:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 01:41 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-25 06:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 21:50 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-26 03:00 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-25 10:56 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 21:58 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-26 04:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-26 10:12 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-27 01:58 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-27 10:12 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-27 19:06 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-27 21:26 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-28 19:59 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-28 21:53 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-27 23:12 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-28 05:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-28 02:22 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-28 08:38 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 03:18 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 13:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-30 01:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-28 11:04 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-28 18:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-28 21:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 04:24 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 13:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 23:42 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 06:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-30 09:28 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 12:02 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-29 18:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 23:44 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 03:21 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-29 10:29 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 13:24 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-29 18:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 21:01 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-29 22:51 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 00:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 11:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-29 22:43 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-30 09:24 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-29 18:53 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-29 22:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 00:21 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 11:53 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 23:31 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 07:00 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 12:05 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 13:19 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-29 18:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 21:04 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-29 22:54 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 00:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-29 22:53 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 00:12 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-30 09:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 12:06 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-30 18:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 21:56 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 01:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 11:18 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 18:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 22:11 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 13:19 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 02:21 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 10:04 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 19:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 21:24 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 01:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 11:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 18:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:59 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-05 00:35 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-05 10:22 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-05 21:19 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 09:56 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 18:24 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 17:51 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 02:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:27 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 18:27 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:20 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 11:54 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 18:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:23 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 02:44 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 12:06 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 21:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 10:29 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:06 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:02 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 22:03 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-12-08 09:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-07 10:18 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 16:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-07 12:48 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:34 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:56 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:39 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 04:52 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 07:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 15:06 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 14:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 21:37 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 10:34 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 21:16 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:24 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 14:08 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 14:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:49 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 00:42 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:35 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:10 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 14:07 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 14:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:47 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:10 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 14:05 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 17:44 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-05 01:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-05 10:24 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-01 10:44 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-01 10:42 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 18:38 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 20:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 22:15 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-02 02:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-02 07:23 +1000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 10:25 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:01 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 15:04 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 20:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 15:06 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 14:28 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 21:38 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 03:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 10:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 19:00 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 21:18 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:53 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 00:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:25 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-04 17:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 00:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:35 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 19:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 22:01 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 11:58 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-02 18:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 21:40 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 02:59 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 10:08 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 10:45 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 18:53 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 21:21 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 00:24 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:33 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-04 17:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:27 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:21 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 14:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 14:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:50 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 07:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 17:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:53 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 00:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 10:32 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 21:19 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 11:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-30 18:44 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 21:54 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 01:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-01 03:50 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-01 10:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 11:15 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-01 10:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 19:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-01 10:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 18:32 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-01 18:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 22:11 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 19:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 22:14 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-02 01:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 10:26 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 10:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 15:03 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 14:26 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 21:36 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-12-04 04:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 11:10 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 14:07 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-04 14:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:47 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 19:02 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 22:00 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-05 01:51 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-05 10:31 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 09:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-05 13:17 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 01:51 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 10:11 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 18:23 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 19:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 21:40 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 17:50 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:10 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 22:57 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-07 01:04 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-07 00:55 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 08:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 14:12 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:50 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 14:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 18:33 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:29 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 01:48 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 07:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 10:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 18:18 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 17:50 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 18:45 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:10 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 20:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 02:56 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:25 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 20:51 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:20 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:43 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 17:57 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:07 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 11:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 01:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 11:59 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 21:45 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 10:33 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 12:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 21:41 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 21:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:59 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:12 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:05 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:56 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:35 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 21:11 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 12:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 02:06 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 12:04 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 21:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 10:26 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 11:56 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 21:51 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:58 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 21:14 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 22:04 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 23:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-11 10:57 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:21 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 19:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:37 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 19:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:36 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 03:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 12:10 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 22:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 10:43 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 23:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:20 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 22:03 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-11 01:44 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-11 11:03 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 01:11 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:21 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 20:08 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 21:31 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 01:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:13 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:28 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:57 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:03 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:40 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 19:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 12:11 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-15 12:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 19:28 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 10:42 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:54 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:02 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 18:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 23:01 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:43 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 19:59 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 00:33 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 11:25 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 23:05 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-15 01:04 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-15 11:27 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:17 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:28 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:07 +0100
Re: Joy of Translation Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-12-11 12:33 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-11 15:16 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 01:15 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-12 05:06 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 08:24 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:37 +0100
Re: Joy of Translation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 20:15 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 21:33 +0100
Re: Joy of Translation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 01:47 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:20 +0100
Re: Joy of Translation rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:50 +0000
Re: Joy of Translation D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 12:00 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:42 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:58 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 21:12 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-10 22:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 12:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 21:12 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 11:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:21 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 19:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:35 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:18 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 18:12 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-07 02:41 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:00 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 17:45 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 18:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:09 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 00:28 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 12:24 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 17:42 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 17:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 22:57 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 11:51 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 11:59 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 17:39 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 16:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 22:48 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:26 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 11:48 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-08 12:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 21:50 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 11:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 21:39 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 21:26 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 22:38 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 10:43 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 12:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 21:44 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 21:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:56 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 00:31 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 08:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-08 12:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-08 12:11 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 21:49 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 11:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 21:38 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 00:19 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-09 03:02 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 12:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-09 21:47 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 12:42 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 21:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 02:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-07 00:32 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-02 10:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-02 15:02 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-03 00:30 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-03 10:13 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 10:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 19:14 +0000
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 11:12 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 07:58 -0800
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-05 01:37 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-05 07:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-12-06 04:02 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 05:39 +0000
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-05 01:28 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-05 07:34 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 01:31 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 20:33 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-07 00:19 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 05:37 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 19:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 23:43 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 05:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:43 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 14:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 18:30 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:43 +0000
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 14:02 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-04 18:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-04 21:55 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-05 01:42 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-05 07:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 01:40 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 08:00 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-05 10:30 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-05 07:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2024-12-06 03:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 05:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 10:00 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:04 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 18:09 +0100
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 21:39 +0100
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:24 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 09:58 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 18:24 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2024-12-06 17:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 19:02 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-03 00:20 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-29 22:50 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-29 23:50 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-30 06:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-30 09:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-30 11:57 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-01 04:11 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 11:21 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-01 18:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-03 00:10 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 19:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-01 03:54 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-01 11:19 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 12:35 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-28 11:03 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 02:41 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 02:11 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-24 10:25 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-24 21:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 01:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 02:41 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-25 09:07 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 22:59 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-26 04:43 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-26 05:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-26 08:49 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-26 05:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 15:43 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-03 10:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-03 19:23 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 02:33 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-25 19:54 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-25 23:58 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-23 02:29 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-23 08:52 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-23 11:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-23 19:28 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 21:02 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-21 19:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-21 23:14 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-21 23:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-22 01:51 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-22 10:34 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-22 10:45 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-22 12:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-22 18:53 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-11-22 20:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-23 07:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 07:44 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-23 09:05 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-23 11:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-23 19:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 21:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-23 19:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-23 10:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-23 11:34 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-23 19:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 21:45 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-24 12:46 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-24 20:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-25 08:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-25 21:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-26 08:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-26 21:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-26 21:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-26 21:36 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-11-26 17:55 -0700
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-27 01:48 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-27 12:05 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-27 16:33 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-27 17:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-27 18:58 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-28 08:35 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-28 09:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-28 14:19 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-28 18:19 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 10:11 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-27 22:11 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-27 18:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-28 09:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-29 10:01 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-27 18:51 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-27 04:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2024-11-26 22:38 -0700
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-27 09:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-27 22:06 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-27 23:59 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-28 00:57 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-23 11:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 21:38 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 20:58 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-23 07:09 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 07:45 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-23 19:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-23 21:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-11-25 04:40 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-25 06:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-11-25 18:20 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-23 09:10 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-23 19:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-23 20:50 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-23 01:28 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 20:55 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-20 21:47 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-20 14:09 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-20 23:39 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-11-21 01:27 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-21 02:16 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-21 04:31 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-20 18:53 +0000
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2024-12-07 23:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ded9a363-5c0d-bb17-7221-0e9bec57e4bf@example.net> |
| In reply to | #61865 |
On Sat, 7 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> I think it can even happen spontaneously, and then there's near death >> experiences as well. >> > The ultimate trauma... Yes, and boy is it fascinating! >> That brings me to the thought, since psylocybin and other mushrooms are now >> starting to become so common, if there's something to be gained by doing it >> the natural way instead of "shocking" the mind with external drugs? >> > Depends on the person. Drugs are supremely violent and the moment or > revelations may well be too much for people to survive mentally intact... True. I would very much like to try, but I have madness in the distant family and I do not want to take any risk of jarring the good, old brain since it might be latent in me. > There isn't much point in achieving enlightenment if you are then unable to > cope with daily life. This is another interesting thought experiment. We tend to sanctify saints, saying they are the paragon of humanity. But would all of us becoing saints really be a good end station for humanity? If I look at monks and monasteries, they decide (for the love of humanity) to move away and pray. If you look at saintly figures among the monks (the "rock stars" of spirituality) they tend to withdraw even more, and the brothers take care of them. Now imagine a planet of such people. It does sound as if the human species would just slowly fade away. > "Before enlightenment, chopping wood, fetching water: After enlightenment > chopping wood, fetching water" > > :-) True. From where is that quote? >> The reason I'm thinking about it is that I 've read about underground >> trip-clinics where people get "hooked" on the spiritual experience of >> merging with the universe. They want to experience it again and again. >> > Bliss junkies. > > It inst an escape. They probably gave em fentanyl. They knocked me out with > that for my last operation. Wow! Yes, it does sound like junkies. They are only there for the instant effects, and not for the goal (to find god). I think, but am not sure, that buddha strongly warned against blissful states, spiritual experiences, esp and so on, and said "just keep on meditating and do not let yourself be distracted by that". It would make a lot of sense if that is what he said, and it would also make me think that in fact, bliss junkies is exactly what they are, and that it might actually be harmful for them in the long run, even though they run around feeling bliss all day. >> Contrast that with a buddhist monk who trained meditation for decades, and >> then has his realization. He might be a kind and loving man, with enormous >> compassion, continuing with his meditation and helping people. >> > Indeed. > >> The young man in the trip-clinic, goes there once a week to get his dose of >> spirituality. >> > Or down the club for a bit of Ecstasy. > > There is a reason psychedelics are no longer in vogue. They don't guarantee a > good time at all. In fact they can deliver a seriously bad one. Hence Ecstasy > - a cross between an amphetamine and a psychedelic. I think transpersonal psychology and psychedelic therapy are trying to mitigate that, and make it for "everyone" by carefully monitoring the process and the doseages. >> Is this good or bad? Is there a component that favours one or the other >> method? >> > Depends on the person. I think you need to be very strong to survive any > drug. But weak people are attracted. Only one way to find out! ;) >> I have a business colleague who is afraid of death. He went to an >> underground clinic and took a trip, and for a week or two afterwards he >> felt more in tune with the world and more spiritual and even hesitated to >> kill mosquitoes out of compassion. But then the effect started to wear off >> as life came back. >> > Psychedelics destroy your current world view. You can then find alternative > ones, or end up with none at all, in a mental institution, but your normal > one is a deep groove to escape from...its like they are a tool to modify the > metaphysics. But they are no guarantee the modification will hold. I think it depends and can be anything from destroying it, shattering your ego, jarring it, or mildly "nudging" it. Maybe psychological illness is like the gearbox getting stuck, and the mild jarring, or hit of the drug, might shake it a bit so it becomes unstuck? > This is the world we have to live in - unless we are extremely permanently > 'enlightened' True. I often think that the reason christianity banned suicide was that life was so bad in the middle ages, that if people truly believed they would go to heaven after death, they would all commit suicide, if the church didn't forbid that way of "hacking the system"! ;) >> I don't know if it did anything long term, about his fear of death. >> >> For me, the tetrapharmakon is as good a treatment as any! =) > > "In my life, I have travelled many paths, > into the bush and out of it > But I am not anywhere. > For me there is only the travelling on paths with heart > On any path with heart > And their I travel looking breathlessly" > > "But how can one know a path with heart?" > > "Any fool can know that, the problem is that no one asks the question" From where is this quote?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-07 22:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vj2ing$3c1gq$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61897 |
On 07/12/2024 22:07, D wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >>> I think it can even happen spontaneously, and then there's near death >>> experiences as well. >>> >> The ultimate trauma... > > Yes, and boy is it fascinating! > >>> That brings me to the thought, since psylocybin and other mushrooms >>> are now starting to become so common, if there's something to be >>> gained by doing it the natural way instead of "shocking" the mind >>> with external drugs? >>> >> Depends on the person. Drugs are supremely violent and the moment or >> revelations may well be too much for people to survive mentally intact... > > True. I would very much like to try, but I have madness in the distant > family > and I do not want to take any risk of jarring the good, old brain since > it might > be latent in me. > >> There isn't much point in achieving enlightenment if you are then >> unable to cope with daily life. > > This is another interesting thought experiment. We tend to sanctify saints, > saying they are the paragon of humanity. But would all of us becoing saints > really be a good end station for humanity? > > If I look at monks and monasteries, they decide (for the love of > humanity) to > move away and pray. If you look at saintly figures among the monks (the > "rock > stars" of spirituality) they tend to withdraw even more, and the > brothers take > care of them. > > Now imagine a planet of such people. It does sound as if the human > species would > just slowly fade away. > >> "Before enlightenment, chopping wood, fetching water: After >> enlightenment chopping wood, fetching water" >> >> :-) > > True. From where is that quote? Standard Zen shit I think > >>> The reason I'm thinking about it is that I 've read about underground >>> trip-clinics where people get "hooked" on the spiritual experience of >>> merging with the universe. They want to experience it again and again. >>> >> Bliss junkies. >> >> It inst an escape. They probably gave em fentanyl. They knocked me out >> with that for my last operation. Wow! > > Yes, it does sound like junkies. They are only there for the instant > effects, > and not for the goal (to find god). I think, but am not sure, that buddha > strongly warned against blissful states, spiritual experiences, esp and > so on, > and said "just keep on meditating and do not let yourself be distracted by > that". > Yes. Very much so. > It would make a lot of sense if that is what he said, and it would also > make me > think that in fact, bliss junkies is exactly what they are, and that it > might > actually be harmful for them in the long run, even though they run around > feeling bliss all day. > >>> Contrast that with a buddhist monk who trained meditation for >>> decades, and then has his realization. He might be a kind and loving >>> man, with enormous compassion, continuing with his meditation and >>> helping people. >>> >> Indeed. >> >>> The young man in the trip-clinic, goes there once a week to get his >>> dose of spirituality. >>> >> Or down the club for a bit of Ecstasy. >> >> There is a reason psychedelics are no longer in vogue. They don't >> guarantee a good time at all. In fact they can deliver a seriously bad >> one. Hence Ecstasy - a cross between an amphetamine and a psychedelic. > > I think transpersonal psychology and psychedelic therapy are trying to > mitigate > that, and make it for "everyone" by carefully monitoring the process and > the > doseages. Well good luck with that. I come from a rougher and less sympathetic age. If you cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen. > >>> Is this good or bad? Is there a component that favours one or the >>> other method? >>> >> Depends on the person. I think you need to be very strong to survive >> any drug. But weak people are attracted. > > Only one way to find out! ;) > >>> I have a business colleague who is afraid of death. He went to an >>> underground clinic and took a trip, and for a week or two afterwards >>> he felt more in tune with the world and more spiritual and even >>> hesitated to kill mosquitoes out of compassion. But then the effect >>> started to wear off as life came back. >>> >> Psychedelics destroy your current world view. You can then find >> alternative ones, or end up with none at all, in a mental institution, >> but your normal one is a deep groove to escape from...its like they >> are a tool to modify the metaphysics. But they are no guarantee the >> modification will hold. > > I think it depends and can be anything from destroying it, shattering > your ego, > jarring it, or mildly "nudging" it. Maybe psychological illness is like the > gearbox getting stuck, and the mild jarring, or hit of the drug, might > shake it > a bit so it becomes unstuck? Mental illness from the psychedelic perspective is simply a bad metaphysical choice. People choose to believe something, perhaps not even consciously, that makes them dysfunctional and unhappy. But in some sense secure in their belief. "everyone is out to get me because i am in fact superior in every way, so I don't need to change my views at all, I am right, and they are simply wrong" > >> This is the world we have to live in - unless we are extremely >> permanently 'enlightened' > > True. I often think that the reason christianity banned suicide was that > life > was so bad in the middle ages, that if people truly believed they would > go to > heaven after death, they would all commit suicide, if the church didn't > forbid > that way of "hacking the system"! ;) > Lol. Hacking the christian system >>> I don't know if it did anything long term, about his fear of death. >>> >>> For me, the tetrapharmakon is as good a treatment as any! =) >> >> "In my life, I have travelled many paths, >> into the bush and out of it >> But I am not anywhere. >> For me there is only the travelling on paths with heart >> On any path with heart >> And their I travel looking breathlessly" >> >> "But how can one know a path with heart?" >> >> "Any fool can know that, the problem is that no one asks the question" > > From where is this quote? The teachings of Don Juan - Carlos Castenada. A mixture of truth and fiction IMHO. -- The higher up the mountainside The greener grows the grass. The higher up the monkey climbs The more he shows his arse. Traditional
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| Date | 2024-12-08 11:52 +0100 |
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 07/12/2024 22:07, D wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 7 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>>> I think it can even happen spontaneously, and then there's near death >>>> experiences as well. >>>> >>> The ultimate trauma... >> >> Yes, and boy is it fascinating! >> >>>> That brings me to the thought, since psylocybin and other mushrooms are >>>> now starting to become so common, if there's something to be gained by >>>> doing it the natural way instead of "shocking" the mind with external >>>> drugs? >>>> >>> Depends on the person. Drugs are supremely violent and the moment or >>> revelations may well be too much for people to survive mentally intact... >> >> True. I would very much like to try, but I have madness in the distant >> family >> and I do not want to take any risk of jarring the good, old brain since it >> might >> be latent in me. >> >>> There isn't much point in achieving enlightenment if you are then unable >>> to cope with daily life. >> >> This is another interesting thought experiment. We tend to sanctify saints, >> saying they are the paragon of humanity. But would all of us becoing saints >> really be a good end station for humanity? >> >> If I look at monks and monasteries, they decide (for the love of humanity) >> to >> move away and pray. If you look at saintly figures among the monks (the >> "rock >> stars" of spirituality) they tend to withdraw even more, and the brothers >> take >> care of them. >> >> Now imagine a planet of such people. It does sound as if the human species >> would >> just slowly fade away. >> >>> "Before enlightenment, chopping wood, fetching water: After enlightenment >>> chopping wood, fetching water" >>> >>> :-) >> >> True. From where is that quote? > > Standard Zen shit I think > >> >>>> The reason I'm thinking about it is that I 've read about underground >>>> trip-clinics where people get "hooked" on the spiritual experience of >>>> merging with the universe. They want to experience it again and again. >>>> >>> Bliss junkies. >>> >>> It inst an escape. They probably gave em fentanyl. They knocked me out >>> with that for my last operation. Wow! >> >> Yes, it does sound like junkies. They are only there for the instant >> effects, >> and not for the goal (to find god). I think, but am not sure, that buddha >> strongly warned against blissful states, spiritual experiences, esp and so >> on, >> and said "just keep on meditating and do not let yourself be distracted by >> that". >> > Yes. Very much so. > >> It would make a lot of sense if that is what he said, and it would also >> make me >> think that in fact, bliss junkies is exactly what they are, and that it >> might >> actually be harmful for them in the long run, even though they run around >> feeling bliss all day. >> >>>> Contrast that with a buddhist monk who trained meditation for decades, >>>> and then has his realization. He might be a kind and loving man, with >>>> enormous compassion, continuing with his meditation and helping people. >>>> >>> Indeed. >>> >>>> The young man in the trip-clinic, goes there once a week to get his dose >>>> of spirituality. >>>> >>> Or down the club for a bit of Ecstasy. >>> >>> There is a reason psychedelics are no longer in vogue. They don't >>> guarantee a good time at all. In fact they can deliver a seriously bad >>> one. Hence Ecstasy - a cross between an amphetamine and a psychedelic. >> >> I think transpersonal psychology and psychedelic therapy are trying to >> mitigate >> that, and make it for "everyone" by carefully monitoring the process and >> the >> doseages. > > Well good luck with that. I come from a rougher and less sympathetic age. If > you cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen. > > >> >>>> Is this good or bad? Is there a component that favours one or the other >>>> method? >>>> >>> Depends on the person. I think you need to be very strong to survive any >>> drug. But weak people are attracted. >> >> Only one way to find out! ;) >> >>>> I have a business colleague who is afraid of death. He went to an >>>> underground clinic and took a trip, and for a week or two afterwards he >>>> felt more in tune with the world and more spiritual and even hesitated to >>>> kill mosquitoes out of compassion. But then the effect started to wear >>>> off as life came back. >>>> >>> Psychedelics destroy your current world view. You can then find >>> alternative ones, or end up with none at all, in a mental institution, but >>> your normal one is a deep groove to escape from...its like they are a tool >>> to modify the metaphysics. But they are no guarantee the modification will >>> hold. >> >> I think it depends and can be anything from destroying it, shattering your >> ego, >> jarring it, or mildly "nudging" it. Maybe psychological illness is like the >> gearbox getting stuck, and the mild jarring, or hit of the drug, might >> shake it >> a bit so it becomes unstuck? > > Mental illness from the psychedelic perspective is simply a bad metaphysical > choice. > People choose to believe something, perhaps not even consciously, that makes > them dysfunctional and unhappy. But in some sense secure in their belief. > > "everyone is out to get me because i am in fact superior in every way, so I > don't need to change my views at all, I am right, and they are simply wrong" > > > >> >>> This is the world we have to live in - unless we are extremely permanently >>> 'enlightened' >> >> True. I often think that the reason christianity banned suicide was that >> life >> was so bad in the middle ages, that if people truly believed they would go >> to >> heaven after death, they would all commit suicide, if the church didn't >> forbid >> that way of "hacking the system"! ;) >> > Lol. Hacking the christian system > >>>> I don't know if it did anything long term, about his fear of death. >>>> >>>> For me, the tetrapharmakon is as good a treatment as any! =) >>> >>> "In my life, I have travelled many paths, >>> into the bush and out of it >>> But I am not anywhere. >>> For me there is only the travelling on paths with heart >>> On any path with heart >>> And their I travel looking breathlessly" >>> >>> "But how can one know a path with heart?" >>> >>> "Any fool can know that, the problem is that no one asks the question" >> >> From where is this quote? > > The teachings of Don Juan - Carlos Castenada. A mixture of truth and fiction > IMHO. Thank you, will have to look it up to see if there is much food for thought there.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-08 01:39 +0000 |
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:07:50 +0100, D wrote: > Now imagine a planet of such people. It does sound as if the human > species would just slowly fade away. The dating of the Bhagavad Gita us controversial. One theory is it is not as old as claimed and was written after Buddhism became established. Gautama was a Kshatria, the warrior and administrator varna. As such, he attracted men from the same varna to lead lives as monks. The Gita gets more philosophical but in the beginning Arjuna is on a battlefield and is getting cold feet. His mentor, Krishna, tells him he is a warrior and that's what warriors do. Get with the program. The thought is the Gita was addressed to young Kshatriya to remind them of their role in society and not to abandon it to follow some monk. It will never happen but I'd really like to see Gabbard taking the Presidential oath of office with her hand on the Gita.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-08 11:59 +0100 |
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On Sun, 8 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:07:50 +0100, D wrote: > >> Now imagine a planet of such people. It does sound as if the human >> species would just slowly fade away. > > The dating of the Bhagavad Gita us controversial. One theory is it is not > as old as claimed and was written after Buddhism became established. > Gautama was a Kshatria, the warrior and administrator varna. As such, he > attracted men from the same varna to lead lives as monks. > > The Gita gets more philosophical but in the beginning Arjuna is on a > battlefield and is getting cold feet. His mentor, Krishna, tells him he is > a warrior and that's what warriors do. Get with the program. > > The thought is the Gita was addressed to young Kshatriya to remind them of > their role in society and not to abandon it to follow some monk. > > It will never happen but I'd really like to see Gabbard taking the > Presidential oath of office with her hand on the Gita. Fascinating theory! Would also be quite interesting if it were true, and if they did see a risk that the best and brightest, due to buddha, would just hang around meditating all day instead of protecting society. ;) But there is this wonderful inflection point, where christianity went from a personal mystic method to find enlightenment, to become a tool to control and build society. I wonder if the mystics lost because of 1. being more interested in the "within" and personal experience than power and 2. the other guys being more interested in power and cared nothing for god, but saw the opportunity. I guess the 3. is St Paul fearing that christianity would split into a 1000 pieces if the mystics with their own individual experiences were allowed to continue.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-08 21:45 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #61952 |
On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 11:59:17 +0100, D wrote: > But there is this wonderful inflection point, where christianity went > from a personal mystic method to find enlightenment, to become a tool to > control and build society. > > I wonder if the mystics lost because of 1. being more interested in the > "within" and personal experience than power and 2. the other guys being > more interested in power and cared nothing for god, but saw the > opportunity. I guess the 3. is St Paul fearing that christianity would > split into a 1000 pieces if the mystics with their own individual > experiences were allowed to continue. Other than the Gnostics I don't see much mysticism in early Christianity rather than sort of a consoling belief for the lumpen proletariat. Constantine was the start of the control. Mystics like Ecckhart, John of the Cross, Tauler, Teresa of Avila, and so forth were a problem for the hierarchy and treated with suspicion if not outright condemned as heretics. Even in recent times Teilhard de Chardin was ordered not to publish or teach his ideas. That's no different than Eckhart who would have been ignored if he hadn't tried to teach.
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| Date | 2024-12-09 10:33 +0100 |
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On Sun, 8 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 11:59:17 +0100, D wrote: > > >> But there is this wonderful inflection point, where christianity went >> from a personal mystic method to find enlightenment, to become a tool to >> control and build society. >> >> I wonder if the mystics lost because of 1. being more interested in the >> "within" and personal experience than power and 2. the other guys being >> more interested in power and cared nothing for god, but saw the >> opportunity. I guess the 3. is St Paul fearing that christianity would >> split into a 1000 pieces if the mystics with their own individual >> experiences were allowed to continue. > > Other than the Gnostics I don't see much mysticism in early Christianity > rather than sort of a consoling belief for the lumpen proletariat. > Constantine was the start of the control. True. > Mystics like Ecckhart, John of the Cross, Tauler, Teresa of Avila, and so > forth were a problem for the hierarchy and treated with suspicion if not > outright condemned as heretics. Yes. > Even in recent times Teilhard de Chardin was ordered not to publish or > teach his ideas. That's no different than Eckhart who would have been > ignored if he hadn't tried to teach. I find it interesting how in our modern and enlightened times (say from the 1950s and onward) there's been a "merge" with eastern spirituality where christian writers have "christianized" eastern meditational practices, and sometimes almost re-invented what the original crew you mentioned above did several 100 years earlier. I believe the phenomenon of religion has a common, personal "core", and that after the original inspired founder was gone, the path to using his teachings as a way to power starts. Once it becomes institutionalized, all the deep, meaningful and personal experiences get lost and you just get the ossified, formalized remains left.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-09 12:13 +0000 |
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On 09/12/2024 09:33, D wrote: > I believe the phenomenon of religion has a common, personal "core", and > that after the original inspired founder was gone, the path to using his > teachings as a way to power starts. > > Once it becomes institutionalized, all the deep, meaningful and personal > experiences get lost and you just get the ossified, formalized remains > left. Was Moses a person in divine contact with God, or a very smart and wise Jew who chipped away on some stone tablets, told the tribes 'these are Gods Words' and thereby created a morality that allowed laws to be divine rather than man made? My knowledge of friends of the Hebrew persuasion suggest to me the latter. :-) -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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| Date | 2024-12-09 21:41 +0100 |
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/12/2024 09:33, D wrote: >> I believe the phenomenon of religion has a common, personal "core", and >> that after the original inspired founder was gone, the path to using his >> teachings as a way to power starts. >> >> Once it becomes institutionalized, all the deep, meaningful and personal >> experiences get lost and you just get the ossified, formalized remains >> left. > > Was Moses a person in divine contact with God, or a very smart and wise Jew > who chipped away on some stone tablets, told the tribes 'these are Gods > Words' and thereby created a morality that allowed laws to be divine rather > than man made? > > My knowledge of friends of the Hebrew persuasion suggest to me the latter. > :-) The latter! Although I can accept that he perhaps did it in a trance, and fooled himself into believing his own trick. ;)
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-09 21:57 +0000 |
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The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 09/12/2024 09:33, D wrote: >> I believe the phenomenon of religion has a common, personal "core", >> and that after the original inspired founder was gone, the path to >> using his teachings as a way to power starts. >> >> Once it becomes institutionalized, all the deep, meaningful and >> personal experiences get lost and you just get the ossified, >> formalized remains left. > > Was Moses a person in divine contact with God, or a very smart and > wise Jew who chipped away on some stone tablets, told the tribes > 'these are Gods Words' and thereby created a morality that allowed > laws to be divine rather than man made? What better way is there to get the "tribe" to not question the "moral laws" than to convince them that their God explicitly deemed these so. Who are you, lowly tribe member, to question the "word of God"..... One just have to be successful in the process of selling of the 'laws' as "divine from God" to the tribe members.
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| Date | 2024-12-10 09:59 +0100 |
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, Rich wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 09/12/2024 09:33, D wrote: >>> I believe the phenomenon of religion has a common, personal "core", >>> and that after the original inspired founder was gone, the path to >>> using his teachings as a way to power starts. >>> >>> Once it becomes institutionalized, all the deep, meaningful and >>> personal experiences get lost and you just get the ossified, >>> formalized remains left. >> >> Was Moses a person in divine contact with God, or a very smart and >> wise Jew who chipped away on some stone tablets, told the tribes >> 'these are Gods Words' and thereby created a morality that allowed >> laws to be divine rather than man made? > > What better way is there to get the "tribe" to not question the "moral > laws" than to convince them that their God explicitly deemed these so. > Who are you, lowly tribe member, to question the "word of God"..... > > One just have to be successful in the process of selling of the 'laws' > as "divine from God" to the tribe members. > True. And today we do the same thing with climate change, although the laws comes from scientists, who represent "the truth" (TM) and may never be questioned.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-10 15:54 +0000 |
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On 10/12/2024 08:59, D wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, Rich wrote: > >> >> What better way is there to get the "tribe" to not question the "moral >> laws" than to convince them that their God explicitly deemed these so. >> Who are you, lowly tribe member, to question the "word of God"..... >> >> One just have to be successful in the process of selling of the 'laws' >> as "divine from God" to the tribe members. >> > > True. And today we do the same thing with climate change, although the > laws comes from scientists, who represent "the truth" (TM) and may never > be questioned. Yup. and for a lot less socially acceptable motives. -- “It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.” ― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-10 15:32 +0000 |
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On 09/12/2024 21:57, Rich wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 09/12/2024 09:33, D wrote: >>> I believe the phenomenon of religion has a common, personal "core", >>> and that after the original inspired founder was gone, the path to >>> using his teachings as a way to power starts. >>> >>> Once it becomes institutionalized, all the deep, meaningful and >>> personal experiences get lost and you just get the ossified, >>> formalized remains left. >> >> Was Moses a person in divine contact with God, or a very smart and >> wise Jew who chipped away on some stone tablets, told the tribes >> 'these are Gods Words' and thereby created a morality that allowed >> laws to be divine rather than man made? > > What better way is there to get the "tribe" to not question the "moral > laws" than to convince them that their God explicitly deemed these so. > Who are you, lowly tribe member, to question the "word of God"..... > > One just have to be successful in the process of selling of the 'laws' > as "divine from God" to the tribe members. Of all the people in the world, excepting Freud, the Jews are the very best psychologists. That is ultimately what made Marx so dangerous. Instead of setting up a narrative that guaranteed peace and the rule of law, he invented a narrative of hatred and victimhood that appealed to the very worst sort of people. Nasty chippy little kraut. -- The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all private property. Karl Marx
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-09 22:12 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #62002 |
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 10:33:06 +0100, D wrote: > I find it interesting how in our modern and enlightened times (say from > the 1950s and onward) there's been a "merge" with eastern spirituality > where christian writers have "christianized" eastern meditational > practices, and sometimes almost re-invented what the original crew you > mentioned above did several 100 years earlier. Prophet in his own land... iirc Thomas Merton, who was well versed in Zen, pointed out the similarities to Christian mysticism and suggested you didn't really need to make the 'journey to the east'.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-10 10:05 +0100 |
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| In reply to | #62067 |
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 10:33:06 +0100, D wrote: > >> I find it interesting how in our modern and enlightened times (say from >> the 1950s and onward) there's been a "merge" with eastern spirituality >> where christian writers have "christianized" eastern meditational >> practices, and sometimes almost re-invented what the original crew you >> mentioned above did several 100 years earlier. > > Prophet in his own land... iirc Thomas Merton, who was well versed in > Zen, pointed out the similarities to Christian mysticism and suggested you > didn't really need to make the 'journey to the east'. > I reached the same conclusion many years ago. Thank you, Merton was the name I was looking for but didn't find. Anthony de Mello I think is another one of those fusion guys. I did follow on the the links, and on it I saw that todays Zen is a fairly modern invention. I was not aware of that. It was renovated during the Meiji restoration. In india, some guy tried to merge marxism and buddhism in the same "modern" spirit.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-10 15:56 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #62100 |
On 10/12/2024 09:05, D wrote: > some guy tried to merge marxism and buddhism in the same "modern" spirit. *shudder*. -- Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they are poor. Peter Thompson
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-10 15:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vj9n3u$10sqc$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #62067 |
On 09/12/2024 22:12, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 10:33:06 +0100, D wrote: > >> I find it interesting how in our modern and enlightened times (say from >> the 1950s and onward) there's been a "merge" with eastern spirituality >> where christian writers have "christianized" eastern meditational >> practices, and sometimes almost re-invented what the original crew you >> mentioned above did several 100 years earlier. > > Prophet in his own land... iirc Thomas Merton, who was well versed in > Zen, pointed out the similarities to Christian mysticism and suggested you > didn't really need to make the 'journey to the east'. Mysticism is pretty much the same the world over. As I said some consider its the relics of a global shamanism that permeated the dawn of time. It all deals with non-ordinary states of mind. What differs, is how it is described and tge means by which you obtain them. -- For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H.L.Mencken
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-10 21:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <73da97b6-1558-e343-d849-9d9c1dcb372a@example.net> |
| In reply to | #62119 |
On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/12/2024 22:12, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 10:33:06 +0100, D wrote: >> >>> I find it interesting how in our modern and enlightened times (say from >>> the 1950s and onward) there's been a "merge" with eastern spirituality >>> where christian writers have "christianized" eastern meditational >>> practices, and sometimes almost re-invented what the original crew you >>> mentioned above did several 100 years earlier. >> >> Prophet in his own land... iirc Thomas Merton, who was well versed in >> Zen, pointed out the similarities to Christian mysticism and suggested you >> didn't really need to make the 'journey to the east'. > > Mysticism is pretty much the same the world over. As I said some consider its > the relics of a global shamanism that permeated the dawn of time. > > It all deals with non-ordinary states of mind. What differs, is how it is > described and tge means by which you obtain them. I would add a small difference when it comes to purpose. In shamanism shamans used to visit the spirit plane with different purposes, while in later mysticism, generally the idea is to find union with god. I find that perhaps a small "off-shoot" or inheritor to shamanism is the occult, where people have more tangible intents and purposes behind their tripping.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-12-09 12:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vj6mmn$ctrb$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #61983 |
On 08/12/2024 21:45, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 11:59:17 +0100, D wrote: > > >> But there is this wonderful inflection point, where christianity went >> from a personal mystic method to find enlightenment, to become a tool to >> control and build society. >> >> I wonder if the mystics lost because of 1. being more interested in the >> "within" and personal experience than power and 2. the other guys being >> more interested in power and cared nothing for god, but saw the >> opportunity. I guess the 3. is St Paul fearing that christianity would >> split into a 1000 pieces if the mystics with their own individual >> experiences were allowed to continue. > > Other than the Gnostics I don't see much mysticism in early Christianity > rather than sort of a consoling belief for the lumpen proletariat. > Constantine was the start of the control. > You have to dig deep. Essentially in the mediaeval times there were the proletariat and the Church, playing the game of public morality and religious bullshit, and the monks and nuns in the monasteries and nunneries, where real academic discussions took place. William of Ockham was such a one. The real mysticism was Jewish - Some of the more esoteric parts of Judaism were really quite advanced. I.e. the Kabala and so on, with their attempts to map what appears to be consciousness itself. Christian mysticism has always been seen by official religion as muddying the waters for the simple people. Organised Christian religion was always, from Paul onwards, a political and social tool. > Mystics like Ecckhart, John of the Cross, Tauler, Teresa of Avila, and so > forth were a problem for the hierarchy and treated with suspicion if not > outright condemned as heretics. > Absolutely. If you want to have visions, for Gods sake have them in the privacy of a monastic cell and dont challenge our authority. > Even in recent times Teilhard de Chardin was ordered not to publish or > teach his ideas. That's no different than Eckhart who would have been > ignored if he hadn't tried to teach. Yup. The mysticism was always there, but it was about as popular then as philosophy is today. -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-08 02:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lrkd90Fu3vdU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #61897 |
On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 23:07:50 +0100, D wrote: > I think it depends and can be anything from destroying it, shattering > your ego, > jarring it, or mildly "nudging" it. Maybe psychological illness is like > the gearbox getting stuck, and the mild jarring, or hit of the drug, > might shake it a bit so it becomes unstuck? Back in the day I did acid of dubious quality twice. The first was a bad experience, the second was better. I was alone for the second attempt. > True. I often think that the reason christianity banned suicide was that > life was so bad in the middle ages, that if people truly believed they > would go to heaven after death, they would all commit suicide, if the > church didn't forbid that way of "hacking the system"! I don't think it was all that bad. People raised families and carried on obviously or we wouldn't be having this discussion. I'm reading a series by James L. Nelson set in 852 A.D. when Dubh Linn was a Norse settlement. It follows a small band whose leader only wants to grab some Irish loot, go home to Norway, and spend his golden years farming. It doesn't work out that was of course. One of the band is a berserker. He gets morose after battles when he survives since he wants a heroic death in battle to attract the Valkyries to take him to Valhalla. The Christians had to make a few edits to sell their goods to a warrior culture. I think I've mentioned Russell's 'The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity' and the Heliand, a Saxon poem that had Jesus as the drighten of a war band heading to the hill fort of Jerusalem. The massacre of the Saxons didn't get the job done so they had to come up with a better spin. We still honer Woden's Day and turning the other cheek never got very popular.
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