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| From | Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? |
| Date | 2012-12-18 22:41 +0100 |
| Organization | 1&1 Internet AG |
| Message-ID | <3943936.RhPkaIaOfC@sunwukong.fritz.box> (permalink) |
| References | <75363bd0-36c7-4717-9ff3-23d2ff50688b@googlegroups.com> <38915c16-737e-4f43-bb4c-fdd7dc9b3e8d@17g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <50d0c9a0$0$3105$e4fe514c@dreader34.news.xs4all.nl> <kaqkn7$j01$1@dont-email.me> |
rickman wrote: > On 12/18/2012 2:53 PM, Albert van der Horst wrote: >> >> Seconded. Or fusion, whatever. >> The earth is to end in a few days anyway. > > I don't know why anyone believes in this nonsense. If the Mayans > really could see the future, don't you think they would have bought > Microsoft > stock? Or even bought into the wheel thing? Well, the Mayans were of course more clever than we are (with our y2k problems just 30-50 years after creating a computer calendar). For one thing, they designed a cyclic calender. The largest cycle is going to repeat in a few days (whether it's 21. or 23. of December 2012 is still debated amonst scientists); they have set this cycle big enough that it did considerably outlast their civilization. In Forth, we are used to cyclic timers, and other cyclic number spaces, as Chuck once apon a time has defined : > - 0> ; (today, it's no longer that way, but you get the idea). There, you can compare two events, and with a big enough cycle, you don't have to worry about overflows, and you also don't have to worry about wraparounds of the calendar. The programs just continue to work. In bigForth, the cyclic timer is a 32 bit number, which wraps around at midnight (GMT on Unix, local time on earlier ports like DOS and Atari ST). When I ported bigForth to DOS, I read out the 55ms timer, and then the internal fractional part in the timer chip. And divided that by $180000, to get a 32 bit number. As I like to program in the evening, I continued to work until midnight, and there, the world ended: This division overflowed, and crashed bigForth, and immediately restarting didn't work either, only after 10 seconds, the system behaved well again. It turned out that the 55ms timer counted up to $1800B0. I thought, the 55ms tick was chosen, because one hour fits into 16 bits. But since the frequency was derived from the NTSC color burst frequency (/3 /65536), it apparently missed that target by 10 seconds a day, and these were adjusted with the $1800B0 wraparound value. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" http://bernd-paysan.de/
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