Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet?

Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Date	2013-01-09 19:45 -0800
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Subject	Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet?
From	gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com>

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On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:38:52 AM UTC-8, gavino_himself wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:46:47 AM UTC-8, rickman wrote:
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> > On 1/8/2013 11:25 AM, Brad Eckert wrote:
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> > > On Thursday, January 3, 2013 8:36:43 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
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> > >> I think there is something wrong with this idea.  The power consumption
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> > >> term peaks are averaged out.  Water flow in a household fluctuates
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> > >> wildly over the course of a day going from zero to many gal/min as
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> > >> toilets are flushed and washers are run.  But the water draw on the
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> > >> reservoir is rather constant.  Same with electricity.
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> > > You just provided a good example of a bunch of uniform random distributions summing to a normal distribution (bell curve). It happens in nature all the time. Think of rogue waves on the ocean. They are statistical freaks, but they happen and they do capsize ships. If you fly over a calm lake in a jet, you can still see the occasional whitecap.
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> > > The 80/20 here seems counterintuitive. Perhaps the 80 and 20 are reversed, or maybe the math really works out that way.
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> > I agree that the occasional rogue wave will happen, that is statistics. 
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> >   But this is a regular cycle.  The graph provided is discussed in 
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> > German which I speak and read very poorly... well, not at all actually. 
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> >   So I have no idea what this is a graph of really.  The devil is in the 
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> > details.  Then there is always the interpretation of just what the devil 
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> > It may be that on a nice, spring day the electric consumption peaks at 
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> > dinner time and falls off to 20% of the peak during the night.  But 
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> > during the summer and winter in the US there is still lots of demand at 
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> > night when heating and cooling is still the lion's share of demand, at 
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> > least residential demand.  I guess I'd like to see more data before I 
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> Well once you get that electricity from atomic energy grid would be cheaper and forget oil and emissions, once you take the atomic waste and fly it into the sun, then electricity for heating looks great, and saves on pipes for oil or gas etc.  I am sure someone can design a slightly more efficient way of electric heating or even improve upon the heat pump idea. Forget israel and middle east is just a bonus.

heating is more a problem of proper insulation than electric or gas.

With some dome houses a simple wood stove is enough.

I dont worry because I live by the beach in southern california.

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