Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet?

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet?
Date	2013-01-14 09:50 -0500
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On 1/14/2013 6:10 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
> In article<kcvbgr$mvb$1@dont-email.me>, rickman<gnuarm@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>>
>> You need to explain that one to me.  How does PV replace 20% of the
>> energy a house uses and eliminate 50% of the CO2?  Why would generation
>> of electricity produce 2.5 times the CO2 of heating?
>
> That is basic physics. Read up on Carnot cycles, heat engines.
> Basically, electric energy is pure "free energy" that is more expensive
> than heat energy.

I am familiar with thermodynamics.  The production of electricity is in 
the 50% range according to the European Environment Agency.  I don't 
know them, are they to be trusted?  If you include the heat energy that 
is utilized the efficiencies are over 50%.

Even if the two are on similar footing in terms of amount of C02 
produced (electricity and heating), dealing with half the problem is not 
much better than not dealing with the problem at all.  The CO2 problem 
is so far out of control that ending half of our CO2 production just 
won't fix the problem.

Rick

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  Re: any misc chip desktop pc yet? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-01-08 21:23 -0500
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