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Re: any statistics on declining PC sales?

From Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: any statistics on declining PC sales?
Date 2015-09-06 15:24 +1000
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On 6/09/2015 2:23 PM, Max wrote:
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d51sl4FrlcjU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> <bruce56@topmail.co.nz> wrote
>>
>>>> I know that since tablets caught on that the sales of PCs have fallen.
>>>> I mean those in the tower cases.
>>>> Maybe business workstations and gaming PCs still sell, but I presume
>>>> the home/student PC has fallen in a hole.
>>>> I have noticed a couple of PC shops close down in the last 2 years.
>>>> Are there any statistics how much sales have fallen?
>>>
>>> People use tablets when in the lounge in front of the TV or maybe at
>>> the kitchen or dining table.  They use them for simple web tasks such
>>> as looking up websites for information, booking flights and hotels,
>>> internet banking. I don't believe people are writing many emails on
>>> tablets.
>>
>>> You also cannot do word processing on a tablet.
>>
>> You can actually with an addon bluetooth keyboard etc.
>>
>>> It is not going to replace the PC for that, so students will still
>>> need a PC,
>>
>> Most of them moved to a laptop, hardly any have a PC anymore.
>>
>
> A laptop is a PC, as opposed to a tablet.
>
Yes, tablets are piss poor for doing serious work on, even with an add 
on keyboard, so the laptop is likely to survive for quite some time.
>
>>> and of course businesses will still use PCs.
>>
>> Quite a few of the sales fools have moved to tablets and smartphones.
>>
>
> Jobs that require proper Word or Excel use other apps will stay with the
> PC.

Have you seen the new desktop PCs? They are usually much smaller now. 
This process was led by the Mac Mini.
>
>>> But there is a chunk of the market lost to tablets.
>>
>>> PC shops have been closing down for a long time.
>>
>> Yes, its always been one area of significant turnover.
>>
>>> When the prices of brand name PCs like HP, Dell and Acer came down
>>> the PC shops all starting closing - about 10 years ago.
>>
>> That utterly mangles the real story.
>>
>
> Big brand PCs used to be over twice the cost of custom built PCs and
> were mainly used in business.  Then the price came down and now they are
> affordable and easily bought from stores like Harvey Norman.
>
> You would be mad to run a PC Shop now.
>
Last thing I wanted to do, even when it was more viable.
>
>
>>> It is now not cost effective to buy a custom built PC.
>>
>> And that is just plain wrong.
>>
>>> The prices are virtually the same now
>>
>> They are quite a bit lower at the bottom end.
>>
>
> You might be able to save a one to hundred dollars by buying all the
> parts and putting it together yourself, but why would you bother when
> you don't do that for a living and might stuff something up?
>
I used to build my own back when I felt the need to be "bleeding edge". 
My last "build" is still here, a Core 2 Quad that was state of the art 
when I built it. That is no longer the case and I "find" all sorts of 
things these days that keep me busy tinkering.
>
>>> and you don't get the QA checks
>>
>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>
>>> and no reliable warranty from a big company.
>>
>> Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.
>>
>
> I would much prefer taking a computer back to Harvey Norman than to the
> local PC shop which might be out of business in 3-6 months.

I find it much easier to get hold of people's discarded desktops. Also 
ex-lease business desktops can be reasonable for day to day use. I 
haven't built a new computer in years now. Have rejigged a few however. 
Got one with a core 2 duo off a hard rubbish collection a month or two 
back. It had 2 minor problems; shorted video card and dead onboard lan. 
Put a video card in from a previous hard rubbish pickup and fixed the 
lan issue with a Wifi card that was in a desktop that was given to me. 
That desktop, I might add, was replaced with a laptop by the lady owner.


-- 

Xeno

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any statistics on declining PC sales? bruce56@topmail.co.nz - 2015-09-05 19:52 -0700
  Re: any statistics on declining PC sales? "Max" <max@val.morgan> - 2015-09-06 11:57 +0800
    Re: any statistics on declining PC sales? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 14:10 +1000
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