Re: any statistics on declining PC sales?

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: any statistics on declining PC sales?
Date	2015-09-21 09:03 +1000
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"Clocky" <notgonna@happen.com> wrote in message 
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> On 10/09/2015 3:50 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Clocky" <notgonna@happen.com> wrote in message
>> news:55efe912$0$11109$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On 8/09/2015 1:12 PM, news13 wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 20:48:18 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/09/2015 4:50 PM, news13 wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 15:30:28 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I always find it amusing that these PC assemblers and part swappers
>>>>>>> call themselves "technicians" when they wouldn't even know which end
>>>>>>> of a soldering iron is the handle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it requires a "soldering iron" to repair, then it is uneconomic
>>>>>> repair. Rarely been otherwise in PCs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Used to be commonplace in the early days and I still do board level
>>>>> repairs from time to time.
>>>>
>>>> Define "early days". I know tech who have replaced all the components 
>>>> on
>>>> main frame boards, to see if they can do it or as employment, but I've
>>>> never met anyone who bothered "repairing" a PC motherboard. It was
>>>> always
>>>> cheaper to bin and replaced at my buy level. Also exceedingly faster.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You're missing the point however.
>>>>
>>>> You want to claim some sort of elitism?
>>>
>>> No, I want to call a spade a spade.
>>>
>>> If you can't diagnose and repair an electronic fault you don't get to
>>> call yourself a technician
>>
>> Yes, but with something that is designed to allow
>> the parts to be swapped easily its makes sense to
>> repair a fault by swapping parts that could produced
>> the fault seen.
>>
>>> in the same way that someone who can swap out an engine does not an
>>> automotive technician make.
>>
>> It does when they have worked out that the engine
>> is at fault and its not economic to repair it.
>>
>>>> I've just never seen the point, even when I did come across a few
>>>> mobo's with buldging caps. All my customers saw the benefit of a few
>>>> dollars extra for a new mobo vs a repaired mobo.
>>
>>> Changing caps takes a few minutes tops
>>
>> Bullshit when it takes longer than that to
>> get the motherboard out so you can do that.
>>
>
> Irrelevant when you have to remove and replace the motherboard anyway if 
> you're going to replace it.

Not irrelevant to your stupid pig ignorant claim about it only taking a few 
minutes tops.

And you don’t have to remove and replace the motherboard
when you decide its not economic to repair and bin it.

>>> and the show is back on the road, unaltered. Replacing the board takes
>>> longer all things considered!
>>
>> Even sillier than you usually manage on that last.
>
> Howso? You replace the caps and nothing in the system is altered and there 
> is no possibility of driver problems etc that you might get if the board 
> you swapped isn't identical to the old one.

Fuck all motherboard swaps have a driver problem.

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