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Re: any statistics on declining PC sales?

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: any statistics on declining PC sales?
Date 2015-09-10 05:50 +1000
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"Clocky" <notgonna@happen.com> wrote in message 
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> On 8/09/2015 1:12 PM, news13 wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 20:48:18 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/09/2015 4:50 PM, news13 wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 15:30:28 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I always find it amusing that these PC assemblers and part swappers
>>>>> call themselves "technicians" when they wouldn't even know which end
>>>>> of a soldering iron is the handle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it requires a "soldering iron" to repair, then it is uneconomic
>>>> repair. Rarely been otherwise in PCs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Used to be commonplace in the early days and I still do board level
>>> repairs from time to time.
>>
>> Define "early days". I know tech who have replaced all the components on
>> main frame boards, to see if they can do it or as employment, but I've
>> never met anyone who bothered "repairing" a PC motherboard. It was always
>> cheaper to bin and replaced at my buy level. Also exceedingly faster.
>>
>>
>>> You're missing the point however.
>>
>> You want to claim some sort of elitism?
>
> No, I want to call a spade a spade.
>
> If you can't diagnose and repair an electronic fault you don't get to call 
> yourself a technician

Yes, but with something that is designed to allow
the parts to be swapped easily its makes sense to
repair a fault by swapping parts that could produced
the fault seen.

> in the same way that someone who can swap out an engine does not an 
> automotive technician make.

It does when they have worked out that the engine
is at fault and its not economic to repair it.

>> I've just never seen the point, even when I did come across a few mobo's 
>> with buldging caps. All my customers saw the benefit of a few dollars 
>> extra for a new mobo vs a repaired mobo.

> Changing caps takes a few minutes tops

Bullshit when it takes longer than that to
get the motherboard out so you can do that.

> and the show is back on the road, unaltered. Replacing the board takes 
> longer all things considered!

Even sillier than you usually manage on that last. 

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