Re: IObit software

From	felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers
Subject	Re: IObit software
Date	2016-06-04 14:25 +1000
Message-ID	<drf3kfF42r8U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 04-June-2016 12:37 PM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 4/06/2016 9:35 AM, felix wrote:
>> On 04-June-2016 8:25 AM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 3/06/2016 10:11 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On 03-June-2016 7:59 PM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 3/06/2016 4:55 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 02-June-2016 10:42 PM, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/06/2016 12:14 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.iobit.com/en/driver-booster.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you should update drivers one at a time so you can roll back to 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>> driver if any issue arises
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've been told already that this is Chinese based malware
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is not malware. that is just a lie. infact IObit has it's own
>>>>>> anti-malware program, with both free and paid versions ..
>>>>>> http://www.iobit.com/en/malware-fighter-pro.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure. Have a read here and see if your still like their products.
>>>>> https://forums.malwarebytes.org/topic/30989-iobit/
>>>>
>>>> ancient history. and how were they able to access the database to 
>>>> steal
>>>> it? if MalwareBytes had any concrete evidence they would have sued 
>>>> them
>>>
>>> They proved it alright but IObit being a Chinese based company makes
>>> it impossible to pursue them. You do know that ASC installs the Spigot
>>> toolbar which is a known browser hijacker and adware installer.
>>
>> no I didn't because it didn't when I installed it. might I suggest that
>> your knowledge is somewhat out of date?
>
> This was only recently, in 2016 where this was being discussed.
>
>>> Yep you're smart advocating IObit software.
>>
>> well you're the smart one, so you keep telling us, so suggest something
>> better for the average user who doesn't want to have to employ a bad
>> tempered computer tech.
>
> OK.  You want the truth, because you really don't accept it very well.

what you really mean is that I don't accept your word about things, 
especially when they contradict my knowledge and/or experience. If I had 
listened to your advice on the mouse issue, I would have been pulling my 
PC apart looking for fried chips on a sizzled motherboard, lol

>
> I do not advocate ANY driver update program. I only update drivers if 
> one is causing issues and then I go to either the computer 
> manufacturers website or the motherboard manufacturers website and get 
> the latest driver from there. For keeping the system clean I use 
> CCleaner which cleans out the temp files. For removal of any garbage I 
> use ADWCleaner and Malwarebytes. 

IObit does more than those

> Generally with a good antivirus you don't get too much garbage though. 
> Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Avast if you want a free one are all fairly 
> good.

I have Kaspersky paid version. some ppl on aus.computers advocate 
Windows Defender

>
>>>>>>> which has already stuffed up your system,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> another lie. it caused one minor problem that was remedied by 
>>>>>> rolling
>>>>>> back a driver, and successfully updated 36 drivers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow the list is growing. Just like your nose...
>>>>
>>>> no just more of your BS piling up .. http://ausnet.info/pics/db.jpg
>>>
>>> Oh my. Look at the installation dates on those *Updated* drivers. Wow.
>>
>> duh! that is only the first screen. there are dozens (hundreds?) of
>> drivers on my system. that is a list of all drivers that are up to date,
>> including the 38 that Driver booster updated, as per the heading.. "all
>> drivers are up to date ..  38 drivers have been updated"
>> please insert apology for calling me a liar (yet again!) below.. (if
>> you're man enough, which I doubt)
>
> I'm not calling you a liar, I'm saying you are being conned. There is 
> a significant difference.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> yet here you are promoting it. You must be a special kind of stupid
>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you're not a special kind of liar, just an ordinary one
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a liar.
>>>>
>>>> there's been plenty. still the one above that IObit software is 
>>>> malware
>>>
>>> Proven when it installs the spigot toolbar and multiple users have
>>> reported major issues with it.
>>
>> users report issues with all software. if it was malware if would be
>> detected as malware by any other malware program
>
> Which it is. McAfee amongst others doesn't like it.

McAfee is one of the worst AV programs. it's a huge system resources 
hog. no one uses it anymore

>
>>>>> Just a grumpy tech who has to fix systems that have been stuffed 
>>>>> using
>>>>> junk like IObit's software.
>>>>
>>>> it works so it's not junk ..
>>>> http://www.iobit.com/en/advancedsystemcarefree.php
>>>>
>>>>   "Over 250,000,000 Users' Choice for Faster PC "
>>>>
>>>> that kinda puts you in the minority doesn't it. but there maybe
>>>> something better, who knows
>>>>
>>> Wow 250,000,000 users, You mean there are that many dumb people in the
>>> world.
>>
>> the question you should really be asking yourself is why you are so dead
>> set against this particular software
>
> I'm against all bullshit programs that claim to do something but are 
> really just a placebo, or make dishonest claims about their 
> effectiveness.

IObit software has done what it claimed to do in my case, and I'm not 
going to discuss this forever and a day. you have your view and I have mine.

>
>>> Oh hang on people are voting for Trump in America there is a
>>> possibility that many exist. But I digress. The claim that there are
>>> 250,000,000 people in the world using their product could never be
>>> substantiated. You can write anything you like on a website when you
>>> know no-one can prove or disprove it.
>>
>> of course they can claim it, but it can be proven by the number of sales
>> and downloads
>
> Can it? Sales sure, but downloads are a completely different kettle of 
> fish. You see, people often download the same program more than one time.

same would apply to any software. so if I Obit's download figures are 
inflated so are everyone elses, and so IObit's are still indicative of 
it's popularity compared to others

> Amongst other reasons why download numbers can be very inflated.
>
>>> I had people I know who purchased airline flights online from a site
>>> that claimed to have thousands of satisfied customers and had glowing
>>> testimonials everywhere. They never got their tickets and the
>>> companies registered office address was in a ghetto in India. Yep,
>>> like you they were scammed.
>>>
>>>>>>> Were you a teacher per chance?
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed you didn't answer this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> why should I?
>>>>
>>> That's a very good question. Would I answer it if I were you? It's a
>>> pretty simple equation. No need to throw the textbook out the window.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have no intention of giving you personal info about me, you are
>> obviously trying to discover. yet another usenet stalker are you? 
>> seems so.
>
> Anything on the internet is publicly published information. You might 
> want to apologise for calling me a stalker.

there's a big difference between referring to information in context 
where it is published, and ppl searching for info from other locations 
or sources to apply elsewhere. that is stalking.

> I see you corrected my spelling mistake.
>


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                Re: IObit software F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-01 18:48 +1000
                Re: IObit software felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-06-01 22:40 +1000
                Re: IObit software Grumpy Tech <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-01 22:58 +1000
                Re: IObit software felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-06-02 00:09 +1000
                Re: IObit software Grumpy Tech <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-02 00:36 +1000
                Re: IObit software Jeßus <j@j.j> - 2016-06-02 06:48 +1000
                Re: IObit software felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-06-02 11:58 +1000
                Re: IObit software Jeßus <j@j.j> - 2016-06-02 06:47 +1000
                Re: IObit software F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-02 10:55 +1000
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                Re: IObit software felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-06-02 12:14 +1000
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                Re: IObit software Grumpy Tech <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-03 19:59 +1000
                Re: IObit software felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-06-03 22:11 +1000
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                Re: IObit software F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-04 11:31 +1000
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                Re: IObit software Grumpy Tech <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-01 07:52 +1000
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                Re: IObit software "Clocky" <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-06-01 10:03 +0800
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