Re: IObit software

From	felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers
Subject	Re: IObit software
Date	2016-06-01 17:30 +1000
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On 01-June-2016 7:35 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2016 18:23:32 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 31-May-2016 5:21 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2016 21:58:45 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30-May-2016 11:30 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2016 11:10:13 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30-May-2016 10:16 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2016 09:54:01 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30-May-2016 9:34 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In aus.computers felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You say the problem occours at the "bootup screen" after the memory
>>>>>>>>> test happens, so that would be the BIOS display.
>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So if the software
>>>>>>>>> caused the issue, it would have had to either change the BIOS or the
>>>>>>>>> USB controller. It should never have been designed or allowed to
>>>>>>>>> change the BIOS, so it would have to change the USB controller.
>>>>>>>>> USB controllers are very unlikely to self-destruct due to a confused
>>>>>>>>> command, even more so in a way that allows them still to work fine
>>>>>>>>> in Windows when reading USB memory sticks etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What has happened is that Felix didn't notice an issue with the BIOS
>>>>>>>>> that inhibits the boot process when the mouse is connected until he
>>>>>>>>> was inclined to connect the mouse in this configuration after
>>>>>>>>> stuffing up his USB drivers.
>>>>>>>> wrong. good techs don't make a diagnosis based on assumptions. the
>>>>>>>> receiver was always plugged into the front USB ports, and booting was
>>>>>>>> never an issue. the problems only arose after I used IObit software to
>>>>>>>> upgrade 34 drivers
>>>>>>> Well, it had to have modified the BIOS then, obviously. Even you
>>>>>>> should be able to see that is the only possible conclusion to reach,
>>>>>> no. think again
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if what you say is accurate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The other possibility is that the computer actually hangs as the OS
>>>>>>>>> is loading, after the BIOS is finished, and Felix has incorrectly
>>>>>>>>> identified when the problem is occouring.
>>>>>>>> no. it happens before the bios screen finishes
>>>>>>> So it ain't drivers then, is it numbnuts?
>>>> turns out it was, numbnuts
>>> I see. So, some driver updates affected your BIOS.
>>> Right.
>>>
>> before drivers changed problem did not exist. drivers changed, problem
>> exists. drivers rolled back, problem gone. it aint rocket science. but
>> it's not that the bios was affected, rather the booting process.
> So NOW it's during the booting process of Windows and not the BIOS?
> Forgive me if I missed you mention that previously, but this is the
> first time I've seen you state this.

the booting of the PC, not windows


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