Re: IObit software

From	felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers
Subject	Re: IObit software
Date	2016-05-31 18:23 +1000
Message-ID	<dr502aF30ndU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 31-May-2016 5:21 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2016 21:58:45 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 30-May-2016 11:30 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2016 11:10:13 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30-May-2016 10:16 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 30 May 2016 09:54:01 +1000, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30-May-2016 9:34 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>> In aus.computers felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You say the problem occours at the "bootup screen" after the memory
>>>>>>> test happens, so that would be the BIOS display.
>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if the software
>>>>>>> caused the issue, it would have had to either change the BIOS or the
>>>>>>> USB controller. It should never have been designed or allowed to
>>>>>>> change the BIOS, so it would have to change the USB controller.
>>>>>>> USB controllers are very unlikely to self-destruct due to a confused
>>>>>>> command, even more so in a way that allows them still to work fine
>>>>>>> in Windows when reading USB memory sticks etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What has happened is that Felix didn't notice an issue with the BIOS
>>>>>>> that inhibits the boot process when the mouse is connected until he
>>>>>>> was inclined to connect the mouse in this configuration after
>>>>>>> stuffing up his USB drivers.
>>>>>> wrong. good techs don't make a diagnosis based on assumptions. the
>>>>>> receiver was always plugged into the front USB ports, and booting was
>>>>>> never an issue. the problems only arose after I used IObit software to
>>>>>> upgrade 34 drivers
>>>>> Well, it had to have modified the BIOS then, obviously. Even you
>>>>> should be able to see that is the only possible conclusion to reach,
>>>> no. think again
>>>>
>>>>> if what you say is accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other possibility is that the computer actually hangs as the OS
>>>>>>> is loading, after the BIOS is finished, and Felix has incorrectly
>>>>>>> identified when the problem is occouring.
>>>>>> no. it happens before the bios screen finishes
>>>>> So it ain't drivers then, is it numbnuts?
>> turns out it was, numbnuts
> I see. So, some driver updates affected your BIOS.
> Right.
>

before drivers changed problem did not exist. drivers changed, problem 
exists. drivers rolled back, problem gone. it aint rocket science. but 
it's not that the bios was affected, rather the booting process.


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                Re: IObit software Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-05-31 00:00 +0800
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