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Re: Desktop Runtime ?

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Desktop Runtime ?
Date 2025-04-17 11:53 -0400
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On Thu, 4/17/2025 8:34 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 4/17/2025 12:24 AM, Paul wrote:
> 
>> I have no idea what would trigger this. The maintenance the
>> Windows Update does, is for V4 mostly. The only way these might be
>> managed, is by bunging in a blob every once in a while (like
>> a forklift install), rather than being a patch. And if that is
>> the case, why don't these show in Programs and Features control panel ?
>>
>> https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/6.0
>>
>> https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0
>>
>> You would expect a thing like Paint.NET to be associated with
>> crazy stuff like this. And some applications with exotic runtime
>> requirements, trigger the download of the essential package
>> their own selves. Inviting the items in.
>>
>> I tried to look up the "what versions am I running" issue, and
>> it's still handled in the same cack-handed way it always was. But,
>> without Aaron Stebner ("netfx_setupverifier.exe") to help us.
>> Support for that stopped around 2018 or so.
>>
> 
>    The #8 that I have remaining has an install date of 5/10/24.
> Both were listed under installed programs. 5/24 is after I
> stopped allowing Microsoft updates. If I installed a program
> that tried to go online to download a Framework then I
> would have stopped it via firewall and cancelled the installation.
> So that seems to leave some kind of software that packed the
> runtime into an installer.
> 
>   What might do that? There is one thing that fits the bill. I
> installed Intel Arc display controller on the same day. It's incredibly
> bloated. 820 MB for a ridiculously theatrical black Metro window
> with "special effects", all just to control hue, saturation and
> brightness, which don't show up in the Win10 display settings.
> (Separate from the Intel display driver, which is 720 MB
> compressed!) Could Win10/11 graphics settings be any worse
> than they are? They range across several different nested
> windows, yet don't provide anywhere near the number of Windows
> options or display driver adjustments that older Windows provided
> all from one handy, well designed applet.
> 
>    OK, so let's try uninstalling #8 runtime.... Intel Arc still
> works. Though now I'm wondering why I haven't uninstalled
> that. Will I ever need to adjust hue and brightness again?
> Do I really want to waste a GB of space for that? Is Intel
> secretly making all the SSDs and trying to fill them up so
> they can sell more? ... I can only guess that Intel threw in
> this crap as a favor to Microsoft.
> 
>   I also tried out several incredibly bloated text editors back
> then, like Atom and Sublime. I had decided to make my own
> improved version of Notepad and first went out to see whether
> it already existed. (I was surprised to find lots of useless and
> overdesigned editors that gave me all sorts of options for
> colors and panels, but shoehorned in far too much unnecessary
> stuff.) The editors were bloated enough to have snuck in a
> .Net runtime, but the dates don't correspond.

I don't know what Microsoft is trying to do with .NET.
I thought that ship had mostly sunk :-)

And a gigabyte of space for a utility ? Does it
have a hidden game in it with textures or something ?

   Paul

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  Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-16 15:33 -0400
    Re: Desktop Runtime ? casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2025-04-16 18:55 -0400
      Re: Desktop Runtime ? casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2025-04-16 18:58 -0400
      Re: Desktop Runtime ? casagiannoni@optonline.net - 2025-04-16 19:00 -0400
      Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-16 19:55 -0400
        Re: Desktop Runtime ? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 00:24 -0400
          Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-17 08:34 -0400
            Re: Desktop Runtime ? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 11:53 -0400
              Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-17 13:55 -0400
          Re: Desktop Runtime ? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 05:11 -0400
            Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-19 07:29 -0400
              Re: Desktop Runtime ? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 11:10 -0400
                Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-19 12:11 -0400
                Re: Desktop Runtime ? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:02 -0400
  Re: Desktop Runtime ? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-16 17:03 -0400
  Re: Desktop Runtime ? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 19:28 -0400

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