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Re: Desktop Runtime ?

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On 4/17/2025 12:24 AM, Paul wrote:

> I have no idea what would trigger this. The maintenance the
> Windows Update does, is for V4 mostly. The only way these might be
> managed, is by bunging in a blob every once in a while (like
> a forklift install), rather than being a patch. And if that is
> the case, why don't these show in Programs and Features control panel ?
> 
> https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/6.0
> 
> https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/8.0
> 
> You would expect a thing like Paint.NET to be associated with
> crazy stuff like this. And some applications with exotic runtime
> requirements, trigger the download of the essential package
> their own selves. Inviting the items in.
> 
> I tried to look up the "what versions am I running" issue, and
> it's still handled in the same cack-handed way it always was. But,
> without Aaron Stebner ("netfx_setupverifier.exe") to help us.
> Support for that stopped around 2018 or so.
> 

    The #8 that I have remaining has an install date of 5/10/24.
Both were listed under installed programs. 5/24 is after I
stopped allowing Microsoft updates. If I installed a program
that tried to go online to download a Framework then I
would have stopped it via firewall and cancelled the installation.
So that seems to leave some kind of software that packed the
runtime into an installer.

   What might do that? There is one thing that fits the bill. I
installed Intel Arc display controller on the same day. It's incredibly
bloated. 820 MB for a ridiculously theatrical black Metro window
with "special effects", all just to control hue, saturation and
brightness, which don't show up in the Win10 display settings.
(Separate from the Intel display driver, which is 720 MB
compressed!) Could Win10/11 graphics settings be any worse
than they are? They range across several different nested
windows, yet don't provide anywhere near the number of Windows
options or display driver adjustments that older Windows provided
all from one handy, well designed applet.

    OK, so let's try uninstalling #8 runtime.... Intel Arc still
works. Though now I'm wondering why I haven't uninstalled
that. Will I ever need to adjust hue and brightness again?
Do I really want to waste a GB of space for that? Is Intel
secretly making all the SSDs and trying to fill them up so
they can sell more? ... I can only guess that Intel threw in
this crap as a favor to Microsoft.

   I also tried out several incredibly bloated text editors back
then, like Atom and Sublime. I had decided to make my own
improved version of Notepad and first went out to see whether
it already existed. (I was surprised to find lots of useless and
overdesigned editors that gave me all sorts of options for
colors and panels, but shoehorned in far too much unnecessary
stuff.) The editors were bloated enough to have snuck in a
.Net runtime, but the dates don't correspond.

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