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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: Desktop Runtime ? |
| Date | 2025-04-19 12:11 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 4/19/2025 11:10 AM, ...winston wrote:
> If Desktop Runtime is present, it's not necessarily from or included in
> Windows 10.
> - Not included in Windows 10 installer
> - Not included in Windows 10 Updates(LCU, Safe OS, WinRE)
> - Not included in .NET updates unless the desktop runtime is present,
> but only updating files without version changes.
>
Right. It's not part of any of that. And it's not related
to the numerous VC runtimes. What I'm not clear about is
how it relates to the .Net framworks, which are typically
called frameworks and have their own versioning.
As near as I can tell, "framework" is now used to refer only to
pre-installed .Net support. So when programs would previously
download a .Net framework, they now download a "Windows
Desktop Runtime".
It seems to be a kind of sleight of hand, trying to claim
that Desktop software is .Net software, while also trying
to avoid the use of ".Net". In other words, "Don't think this
is just more bloated Java clone crap that you shouldn't
need. It's really what Windows needs to run your software.
Really."
Interestingly, I've uninstalled the 6 and 8 runtimes, as well as
the ASP.Net package -- which I definitely shouldn't need. So
far I can't find anything that it's broken. The runtimes seem
to have been installed with the Intel Arc display applet, but
that still works.
I suppose it's possible that Intel, being so thoroughly in
bed with Microsoft, puts those runtimes into their downloads
as a favor to MS, so that .Net developers don't have to
sneak out and try to get them.
I never let software call home or even call out
(except things like Firefox or TBird) so nothing could have
snuck out to get these runtimes. They would have had to
have been part of a large installer.
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Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-17 13:55 -0400
Re: Desktop Runtime ? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 05:11 -0400
Re: Desktop Runtime ? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-19 07:29 -0400
Re: Desktop Runtime ? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 11:10 -0400
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Re: Desktop Runtime ? "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 13:02 -0400
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