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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Gas inspections |
| Date | 2026-10-26 11:33 +0100 |
| Organization | Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming |
| Message-ID | <vsm3rmxmmm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 2026-10-26 06:16, c186282 wrote: > On 10/24/26 15:23, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-10-24 15:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 24/10/2026 13:45, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-10-24 14:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 24/10/2026 12:44, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> Gas cooking ... WILL admit it's "superior" for the >>>>>>> purpose. However that's hardly relevant when your >>>>>>> entire house explodes suddenly or everyone dies >>>>>>> from suffocation or monoxide. WON'T have gas ! >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess that your mandatory periodical gas inspection services are >>>>>> not up to par. >:-) >>>>> >>>>> Let alone his smoke alarms or CO detectors... >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well, those are not mandatory in Spain, not even recommended. >>>> >>> Sloppy EU standards again. Sigh. >>> Couldn't build or insure my house without smoke alarms. >>> >>> Fire prevention gave me a CO alarm >> >> Insurance here don't ask for any of those. > > > But, if you use gas, DO at least install a CO detector ! It is not even recommended here. > A gas LEAK detector is also a VERY good idea. No BOOMS. We live in flats. Doesn't help me much if I put one, and my neighbour doesn't, and HE has a leak. > > Every few weeks, USA news, videos of entire houses > EXPLODING due to gas leaks. Look like a Russian drone > hit. USA infrastructure is generally newer than UK/EU > infrastructure - so BEWARE. Here, it happens rarely. > > "Pilot lights" in stoves and such ... CAN be a problem. > > Gas cooking/heating/etc DOES have its good place, but > DO keep the hazards in mind ! > > Some areas ... no WAY to change from gas to electric > with any sanity because too much of the electric grid > would have to be seriously upgraded. The UK had this > nutty plan to electrify, then somebody actually did > the numbers - unaffordable by a wide margin. > > Somewhere I have a little electric thing intended > to produce a little spark to keep pilot lights lit. > However MOST stoves/heaters ... it'd have to be a > major retrofit. Not sure ANY corps would do it now > for insurance/liability reasons. In this house, I have a butane flash water heater. It has two D size 1.5 volt batteries, and with those it lights up the gas when I open a tap. The inspector came this year, tested the tubings, inserted some kind of probe into the exhaust to measure the type of gases, and pronounced my system safe for another 4 years. > > >> If you buy a state of the art butane space heater (they work with >> bottles of butane) they don't have any CO sensor. Just a CO2 sensor. >> They don't generate CO. And they don't get inspected, either. > > They CAN produce a lot of CO ... so buy a detector !!! No, they can't. Certified. > > Butane is a little less flammable than methane or propane > but you STILL need leak detectors. > >>>> I do remember cases of CO poisoning, but it was in a second >>>> residence, so perhaps not inspected because there was nobody there. >>>> >>>> More common are those poisoned in houses that were using the >>>> traditional wood coal stoves (usually placed under a table). No >>>> inspection in those, obviously. >>>> >>> Why not? >> >> Because it is not gas :-D >> >> It is just a metal container, like a big bowl, in which you pour a >> bunch of coals and set them on fire. There is no exhaust. Tradition! >> >> >>> >>>> Gas explosions do happen, but not "many". > > Umm ... every few weeks ... USA news shows > yet another entire house EXPLODING due to > a gas leak. > > I think that adds-up to "many". > > 'Gas' CAN be perfectly good - but it's a tech > that HAS to be carefully monitored. > I think it happened this summer once or twice. > Electric can overheat/burn too ... not a panacea > but LESS hazardous IF you can get enough electric > service into an area. Worst case might BURN your > home, but not DETONATE your home. Absolutely. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Re: [OT] Gas inspections c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-26 01:16 -0400
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Re: [OT] Gas inspections c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-26 09:05 -0400
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Re: [OT] Gas inspections "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 13:05 +0100
Re: [OT] Gas inspections c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-28 10:07 -0400
Re: [OT] Gas inspections "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-28 18:06 +0100
Re: [OT] Gas inspections The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-28 17:57 +0000
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Re: [OT] Gas inspections "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 21:48 +0100
Re: [OT] Gas inspections "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-29 21:45 +0100
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