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Re: Differences between versions

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Differences between versions
Date 2025-02-10 00:45 -0500
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On Sun, 2/9/2025 7:43 PM, Newyana2 wrote:

>>
>     Thanks, but that's way more trouble than this is worth.
> 

Once you are granted a license, the license is valid "invisibly"
to you, as long as a hash of the machine details does not change.
It's roughly the same hash as WinXP, and places a lot of weight on
the NIC MAC address, the CPU type, the memory amount (both of those
to a lesser degree). If you had a Firewire, that has a MAC too.

Just one transition from W7SP1 to W10, within the window where
the offer was still valid, is sufficient. You likely DO have a license,
and no backing out of that, unless you swap out the mobo, then,
it is a different machine.

If the Microsoft servers sees just one transition from W10 to RufusW11,
that should grant you a W11 license in a sense. Then, if you added
a TPM, the BIOS supported attestation, your processor magically had
a better MBEC, and so on (you had a POPCNT, which is a pretty low bar),
then when you install W11 the second time and without Rufus, you
would be licensed to Windows 11 (just as the first transition had set up
for you). But the odds of not breaking the hash on such a transition
are so low, I can't recommend trying to do that.

All it takes for an upgrade license, is to do it (W7Sp1 to W10), wait a day,
then check it. Like, check for your license, after the OS has installed
the video card driver automatically, it should be licensed by then. That
allows time for the license server to have been restarted, or the fire
to be put out in the data center :-)

   slmgr /dlv

and one of the lines in there is your license status.

Various entries in the "winver", do not mean quite as much as they imply.
For example, I'm on the Insider, but that alone does not
grant a license. The Winver claims the OS is licensed to BullWinkle,
but, not really. The OS expires in fall 2025 or so  (unless updated
before then). There are several streams of Insider, and I've made
no attempt to keep all of them going. I'm down to one install now.

   Paul

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Differences between versions Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-08 19:26 -0500
  Re: Differences between versions Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-08 23:28 -0500
    Re: Differences between versions Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-09 08:25 -0500
      Re: Differences between versions MR <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-09 16:51 +0000
        Re: Differences between versions Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-09 13:36 -0500
          Re: Differences between versions Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-09 15:23 -0500
            Re: Differences between versions Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-09 16:18 -0500
      Re: Differences between versions ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 14:35 -0700
        Re: Differences between versions Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-09 17:39 -0500
          Re: Differences between versions ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-09 16:25 -0700
            Re: Differences between versions Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-09 19:43 -0500
              Re: Differences between versions Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-10 00:45 -0500
                Re: Differences between versions Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-10 02:30 -0500
                Re: Differences between versions Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 08:08 -0500

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