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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: Differences between versions |
| Date | 2025-02-08 23:28 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vo9atv$f7gk$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <vo8slb$9dkt$1@dont-email.me> |
On Sat, 2/8/2025 7:26 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
> I have an old Win7 Dell that I updated to Win1020H2. 22H2
> refused to do anything but a fresh install, but 20H2 updated
> and accepted the OEM license.
>
> I decided to then test updating from 20H2 to 22H2. No go.
> Then I was reading that the system files are identical from
> 2004 to 22H2.
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5015684-featured-update-to-windows-10-version-22h2-by-using-an-enablement-package-09d43632-f438-47b5-985e-d6fd704eee61
>
> So now I'm curious. Is there any official listing of what's different?
> I assume that I'm missing a lot of security updates in 20H2
> that I won't be able to get, but is there anything else noteworthy?
> I remove Edge and Apps, so none of that matters to me. I had
> assumed that each year updated system files. Has there really been
> no change aside from fluff and security patches in 5 years?
19H2 November 2019 Update 18363
20H1 May 2020 Update 19041 \
20H2 October 2020 Update 19042 \
21H1 May 2021 Update 19043 \___ Funny numeric pattern
21H2 November 2021 Update 19044 /
22H2 2022 Update 19045 /
Graphics card: DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver
You may be able to update to 21H2, as it is
possible that 22H2 kicked out XDDM graphics
drivers. My Optiplex 780, to get 22H2 to install
on it, I added a video card that barely met the
requirements (it has a WDDM 1.1 driver).
Currently supported video cards are WDDM 3.3 or better,
to give some idea what version is supported now. There
is support for DirectX 12 Ultimate (whatever that means).
while you could use Rufus and try to update to 22H2,
there is no specific leverage in Rufus for old graphics
subsystems. The Optiplex 780 had Q45, which is GMA 4500,
a rather crapulent iGPU. That's slightly before Intel
learned how to make GPUs.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005581/graphics.html
If you have a laptop, it's rather difficult to update
the graphics. A USB DisplayLink adapter nominally
is "graphics", but I don't think the subsystem support
is quite good enough to fool the Windows installer :-)
Laptops no longer have ExpressCard slots, that I have seen,
so there is no "sneaky way" of adding a display adapter "box"
to the side of the laptop. The M.2 NVMe slot might work, as a
source of lanes for the task, but then, if you have an M.2,
then chances are your graphics are good enough for the job
of passing any tests.
My single core laptop, I don't think the graphics are in
such good shape, but the acceleration offered might be
slightly better than the Optiplex 780.
*******
The DXdiag.exe executable in your OS, the Display tab tells
you what XDDM or WDDM driver level the machine is at currently.
That might hint at how dire the graphics are.
There is CPU-Z (cpuid.com , portable version) and GPU-Z
(techpowerup.com is the drop site of the developer of it).
CPU-Z can give you a good idea of what hardware you've got,
for these OS-level issues. GPU-Z merely adds the necessary
"color commentary" on subsystem specifics ("do I have PHYSX").
Those three might prepare you a bit for hardware issues.
*******
The OS is a rolling release, with random changes.
What ever gave you the idea it actually stood still :-)
The kernel is constantly being patched. And based
on feedback from VirtualBox devs, even kernel calls
have had the number of parameters in a call changed,
as an example of what they've had to deal with.
Even if you look in WinSxS and you find four different
versions of a library, is it safe to assume the API is
the same on all of them ? Knowing how developers think,
the answer to that is "No". The last time I had people
who cared about compatibility, it was on SunOS 4.1.3U1 .
One of the reasons we have version control systems,
is to let fools move fast and break things. The version control,
the dependency analysis, is the "cleanup in aisle three".
Just how Windows Defender interacts with a system, has
to take into account discovered exploits. And some things
have to be changed out of necessity (CVE at the 10 level).
Summary: I would make an effort to get the "max support"
out of my OS. Even if in my case, it meant fishing
a vid card out of the junk room to do it.
At the moment, I don't see a reason you could not
get to 21H2.
You should keep a series of DVDs, when approaching
end of life for an OS. If you notice some funny
"slowing down" behavior, then use an older version
of the OS to get a bit of performance back again.
I'm not proposing installing a copy of 9928, but I
bet it runs faster :-)
There's only 270GB of OS DVDs on my computer.
What a pauper. There is another terabyte of them
across the room.
Paul
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