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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: Differences between versions |
| Date | 2025-02-09 08:25 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <voaab4$lion$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <vo8slb$9dkt$1@dont-email.me> <vo9atv$f7gk$1@dont-email.me> |
On 2/8/2025 11:28 PM, Paul wrote:
> 19H2 November 2019 Update 18363
> 20H1 May 2020 Update 19041 \
> 20H2 October 2020 Update 19042 \
> 21H1 May 2021 Update 19043 \___ Funny numeric pattern
> 21H2 November 2021 Update 19044 /
> 22H2 2022 Update 19045 /
>
> Graphics card: DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver
>
> You may be able to update to 21H2, as it is
> possible that 22H2 kicked out XDDM graphics
> drivers. My Optiplex 780, to get 22H2 to install
> on it, I added a video card that barely met the
> requirements (it has a WDDM 1.1 driver).
>
21H2 might work. I haven't tried it. When 22H2 wouldn't do an
update I just tried 20H2. I've tried 22H2 mounting the ISO and
booting from a rufused stick. The hardware doesn't seem to
be an issue. It just says it will only do a fresh install because
"Windows might be installed to the wrong location or I might
be trying to install an older OS."
I'm guessing that the problem is only that it recognizes a former
Win7 install and the free upgrade days for 22H2 are over. I'd
thought that it might update from 20H2, but of course it's still
a Win7 computer.
So that got me to wondering whether there was really any
advantage, aside from security patches, in getting a later
version. I assume that 20H2 will support the same software as
22H2. I've never seen specs saying anything like "Requires
Windows 10 22H2 or Windows 11".
> The OS is a rolling release, with random changes.
> What ever gave you the idea it actually stood still :-)
> The kernel is constantly being patched. And based
> on feedback from VirtualBox devs, even kernel calls
> have had the number of parameters in a call changed,
> as an example of what they've had to deal with.
>
> Even if you look in WinSxS and you find four different
> versions of a library, is it safe to assume the API is
> the same on all of them ? Knowing how developers think,
> the answer to that is "No". The last time I had people
> who cared about compatibility, it was on SunOS 4.1.3U1 .
>
You're talking about basic Win32 API calls to kernel32?
I've never seen them break any published API that I can
remember. I know that they go out of their way to break
unpublished functionality. (Spite?) But not published. That's
going back to 1995. If they broke them then old software
wouldn't run and corporate customers would be very angry
when their in-house-developed database programs broke.
> One of the reasons we have version control systems,
> is to let fools move fast and break things. The version control,
> the dependency analysis, is the "cleanup in aisle three".
> Just how Windows Defender interacts with a system, has
> to take into account discovered exploits. And some things
> have to be changed out of necessity (CVE at the 10 level).
>
Funny side note: I was looking at the Windows Defender
settings yesterday. It listed dozens of identified malware
files. I looked at what it wanted to get rid of. It turns out
it had scanned all partitions and flagged things like my own
VBScripts for editing the HOSTS file.
> At the moment, I don't see a reason you could not
> get to 21H2.
>
> You should keep a series of DVDs, when approaching
> end of life for an OS. If you notice some funny
> "slowing down" behavior, then use an older version
> of the OS to get a bit of performance back again.
> I'm not proposing installing a copy of 9928, but I
> bet it runs faster :-)
>
I'm dual booting 20H2 and the original Win7. It's from 2010,
but it was a jazzed up box at the time and hasn't been used
much. I have disk images for both installs. I'm mainly only
using it to stream Netflix and old movies downloaded from
archive.org. (Last week was Desire, with Gary Cooper and
Marlene Dietrich. :) The Win10 update was with Netflix in mind,
in case they stop supporting FF115. I don't need it to run
like a work computer. Just streaming and a bit of going online
with a browser. So 20H2 is probably fine. On the other hand, it's
cold and snowy here, so it's a good day to try 21H2.
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