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Newyana2 wrote on 2/9/25 3:39 PM:
> On 2/9/2025 4:35 PM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
>> Newyana2 wrote on 2/9/25 6:25 AM:
>>>
>>>   21H2 might work. I haven't tried it. When 22H2 wouldn't do an
>>> update I just tried 20H2. I've tried 22H2 mounting the ISO and
>>> booting from a rufused stick. The hardware doesn't seem to
>>> be an issue. It just says it will only do a fresh install because
>>> "Windows might be installed to the wrong location or I might
>>> be trying to install an older OS."
>>
>>>
>> Normally 20H2 to 22H2 does not require a clean install.
>>   - no significant hardware system requirements between the versions
>> Conditions that might cause it:
>> - Windows system image needs repair (DISM command line option)
>> - Windows component store needs cleanup (DISM command line option)
>> - Windows Update broken/corrupt
>> - Windows Update engine out-of-date
>>    => May 2023 KB5026361 last release 20H2 update is required(LCU and 
>> SSU)to update to 21H2/22H2
>> - Windows 20H2 does not have June 2023 KB5027389 stand-alone(not 
>> included with monthly LCU/SSU update) Windows 10 Compatibility 
>> Update(includes the Windows Recovery Update)and is deployed/installed 
>> separate update via Windows Update or the MSFT Catalog. Note June 2023 
>> was also the first monthly update(LCU, SSU, SafeOS) that included the 
>> WinRE update for Win10 21H2 and 22H2
>> - Device using Legacy MBR and not GPT(more common on older devices) 
>> where System partition is on the o/s partition
>> - Device using GPT with no Recovery partition, or deleted Recovery 
>> partition, Windows partition not resizeable/shrink to free space to 
>> create WinRe partition, WinRE partition, if present, insufficient free 
>> space.
>> - lesser issues(Graphics driver, Network driver outdated, stand-alone 
>> graphic card no longer supported or outdated driver); device has both 
>> onboard graphics and add-on graphics card with add-on enabled/onboard 
>> disabled[in some cases, BIOS/UEFI disabling the add-on and enabling the 
>> onboard will allow the 22H2 to be successfully installed]; 3rd party 
>> utilities that modify Windows; 3rd party AV/AM; end-user 
>> tweaking/removing main Windows integrated programs(Edge, Defender)
>> - Windows Photos(rare case but a known issue) app package removed or 
>> uninstalled.
>>
>> Other routes to update
>>   - instead of using Windows Update or UBS media or ISO to update, use 
>> the  the Win10 22H2 Update Assistant(download the exe from the Windows 
>> 10 Software Download site - 'Update Now' option.'
>>   - download exe file is 'Windows10Upgrade9252.exe
>>   => may be necessary to check the exe file's properties and unblock 
>> the exe and/or run the exe as admin
>>
> 
>     Complicated. I tried the 20H2 ISO out of curiosity (what's already
> on there) and that also refused to do an update. The update from
> 7 to 20H2 was smooth, though at the time, 22H2 refused to do
> anything but a clean install.
> 
>     I noticed that the system window pops up and then closes. So
> something is not right. I ran SFC and DISM repairs. Still no luck
> with the system window. It is using MBR. Though 22H2 doesn't seem
> to be complaining about installing -- only refusing to update
> rather than clean install.
> 
>     This computer also does have a graphics card added to
> the onboard because the original predates HDMI and I needed
> to be able to display on the monitor as well as running HDMI
> to a TV. That graphics card is barebones. Something like a $35
> NVidia, I think. (I don't play video games. Only pipe movies.)
> 
>     The complication here is that I don't have a problem with a clean
> install but I expect it would lose the license, since Win7 -> 10 is no
> longer a free update.
> 
>    It sounds like it's probably not worth trying to do much more.
> Setup is not telling me what the issue is. And all the hardware issues
> don't explain why even 20H2 refuses to install on top of itself. But
> if I get bored I might re-run a Win7-> 20H2 update, then try 22H2
> immediately, before tweaking 20H2.
> 
> 
> 
Your symptom/issue is obviously not the first failure of 20H2 to 22H2 on 
a device(including those originally with Win7).
  - Those 'knowns' that I provided are almost everything I recall or have 
seen in my earlier 13 yrs in the MVP program, current MSFT listservers, 
AskWoody owner/admin/moderator patch lady(Susan B. - if she doesn't know 
about it, it didn't happen), and other sources.

If you have verified:
1. the DISM Image and Component store routes show no corruption, no 
repair need, no component store cleanup
2. your 20H2 version is later than May 2023(the last released 20H2 update 
was 19042.2965)Update Assistant route
3. your device has the June 2023 KB5027389 stand-alone(Compatibility 
update installed. (Fyi..the KB can be downloaded from the Catalog, if 
installed and already present, it will tell you not applicable or already 
installed)

If the above are all ok, then try using the available online Update Now 
option to download and run the Upgrade Assistant - Windows10Upgrade9252.exe

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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