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| From | Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.lang, alt.usage.english, soc.culture.france, soc.culture.french |
| Subject | Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France |
| Date | 2024-06-16 19:41 +1000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <v4mc05$7db$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 16/06/24 17:44, HenHanna wrote:
> On 6/16/2024 12:08 AM, Julien ÉLIE wrote:
>> Hi HenHanna,
>>> Outdated Conjugation: "Doint" is an outdated conjugation of the
>>> verb "donner" (to give) in the third person singular form. In Old
>>> French, "doint" was used for the second-person singular "tu" pronoun
>>> (you).
>>
>> Do you have a reference for the use of "doint" for the second-person
>> singular "tu"? I do not manage to find that explicit use.
Anyone with even a moderate knowledge of French would expect "tu doins"
rather than "tu doint". Still, it's an easy mistake for a non-native
speaker to make, especially when discussing a form that's no longer in use.
> Bard.Google.com seems to agree (with my hunch) that
>
> >>> Yes, your sentence "Dieu te doint Santé bonne" uses
> the informal "tu" pronoun ("te") when addressing God.
>
> but now i'm totally unsure about my hunch.
The "te" in that line is an *object* pronoun, and has nothing to do with
the subject "Dieu".
Bard.google.com sounds to me like an AI. Over here in alt.usage.english
we've seen plenty of evidence that statements by an AI cannot be
trusted. No doubt people in the other newsgroups have also noticed that.
Recent developments in AI technology have focused on getting output that
is _convincing_ rather than _correct_. I hope that Google is not
switching over to giving us plausible bullshit.
--
Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW
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[embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> - 2024-05-07 16:33 -0700
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France bebercito@aol.com (Bebercito) - 2024-05-08 15:49 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> - 2024-05-08 19:32 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2024-05-09 06:07 +0100
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2024-05-09 10:55 +0200
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> - 2024-05-10 19:19 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France bebercito@aol.com (Bebercito) - 2024-05-11 05:25 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> - 2024-05-11 07:32 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> - 2024-06-15 17:42 -0700
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2024-06-16 11:29 +1000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> - 2024-06-16 03:24 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> - 2024-06-16 05:07 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2024-06-16 15:28 +1000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2024-06-16 09:08 +0200
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> - 2024-06-16 00:44 -0700
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2024-06-16 09:03 +0100
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2024-06-16 19:41 +1000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2024-06-16 19:26 +0100
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2024-10-27 11:43 +0000
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2024-10-27 19:53 +0100
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2024-10-28 12:43 +1100
Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely positive term in France Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2024-10-28 18:47 +0000
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