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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? |
| Date | 2018-10-11 14:03 +0000 |
| Organization | NOYB |
| Message-ID | <ppns82.8ho.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <wJudnV00vqupoyDGnZ2dnUU7-dudnZ2d@giganews.com> <ppjlq0$snh$1@dont-email.me> <p8c19f-v1t.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <ppl54m$2gi$1@dont-email.me> <0e629f-0pi.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 10/10/2018 17.16, sms wrote: > > On 10/10/2018 6:43 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > > >> I had my Spain SIM, and a T-Mobile SIM, with a number from Florida. I > >> could phone anyone on Mexico, USA, or Canada, but my Canadian friends > >> could not phone me because to them it was an international pone call. > >> They could only text me. > > > > You mean that they were too cheap to pay for a call to the U.S. or > > Spain? On Google Voice, calls to mobile phones in Spain are 3ยข per minute. > > That's assuming we had google voice. As it is, a call to Spain was a > dollar or two per minute. > > I assume Google Voice uses "data", right? Some of my correspondents had > a 2 GB/month data plan, so not a good idea to use google voice. Well, 2GB would buy them about 45 *hours* of talk [1]. Not really worth worrying about, I would say. > I had unlimited data on USA, but capped at 5 GB on Canada. I think every > SIM card I saw had that limitation. > > I could instead purchase an extension plan from T-Mobile to call Europe > flat rate, much more practical. > > Still, calling me remained a problem, international rate for them. If they'd use - for example - Skype with Skype Credit, they could call your US/Florida number at 3.4c/min (CAD). <https://secure.skype.com/calling-rates/United%20States?language=en#> (Hard to navigate: Search the country to be called in the top box. Set the currency (below the top box). And then click 'See all rate' near the bottom.) But of course that requires action on *their* (your Canadian friends') side (Skype and $10 Skype Credit). FWIW, I use this setup when I'm in an 'expensive' - to call or be called - country. If I want to call home or anywhere else expensive, I use Skype to call the number. Likewise for people who want to call me in the expensive country. Who calls who can be arranged by sending a SMS/text. Other than this, there are of course many other options to call inexpensively from a normal phone to a phone in an 'expensive' country. The problem - if any - is mainly on the *receiving* side, if the recipient is roaming in a - for hir - expensive country. [...] [1] Usage based on my experience with Skype voice to a normal phone.
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Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-06 21:32 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 13:40 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 08:30 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-07 15:20 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 15:58 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-07 18:54 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:27 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-07 20:55 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 21:06 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 19:40 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 19:02 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-08 14:49 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 04:33 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:22 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:38 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 12:49 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:01 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 19:48 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 02:55 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:19 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 10:41 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:45 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:50 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 08:24 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-10 11:27 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-10 18:08 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 17:58 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 14:14 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:50 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:00 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-10 18:06 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:00 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:51 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 09:31 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:53 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 09:38 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 10:11 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 21:49 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 22:39 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 19:47 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 01:38 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 10:20 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:25 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 14:51 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 14:56 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 15:18 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-12 19:02 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:35 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 18:47 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 19:59 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-13 02:46 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-13 09:42 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-14 10:14 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-14 11:39 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-14 17:05 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-14 18:30 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-12 06:59 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:33 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 15:46 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 10:11 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 22:23 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 20:01 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-13 13:13 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-13 16:32 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-15 14:39 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:38 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:04 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:59 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 08:46 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 14:08 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:07 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-09 18:48 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:43 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 08:16 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 23:09 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 14:46 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 12:51 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-11 14:03 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 19:12 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-11 18:02 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 14:01 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 15:14 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-13 10:07 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 20:23 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:18 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:35 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:11 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 04:25 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:50 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-10 10:24 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:06 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:34 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:28 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:47 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:11 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:51 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:53 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:09 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:08 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:53 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:10 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:11 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 14:49 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:36 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 14:59 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:21 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:39 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:44 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:30 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 04:35 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:51 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2018-10-11 10:44 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 19:19 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-12 01:46 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 01:52 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 14:11 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 08:36 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 08:50 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-12 12:19 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-13 13:17 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 11:17 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 11:26 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 15:10 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 19:32 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 20:08 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-08 06:30 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 15:49 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-08 10:39 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:24 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 15:09 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 21:31 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 20:09 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 03:45 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-08 03:40 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 15:56 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:32 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:45 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 13:32 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:12 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:22 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2018-10-10 12:01 +0300
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:16 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:38 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-08 07:47 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2018-10-07 13:04 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 17:28 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2018-10-07 18:50 +0100
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 18:48 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:26 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:27 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 18:48 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:34 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:46 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 19:13 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-08 10:46 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-08 14:52 +0000
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 15:17 -0400
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-07 14:23 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 03:48 +0200
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 17:29 -0700
Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:09 -0700
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