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Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick?

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick?
Date 2018-10-07 19:32 +0000
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 10/7/2018 12:54 PM, Piet wrote:
> > You must be kidding. It's Samsung, not a provider, that makes
> > updates available. And asking Samsung directly is useless.
> 
> The manufacturer may make updates available, but it's upto the provider 
> to distribute it out to the phones they sold.

  You live in the US don't you? What you describe is a typical US thing.
As with so many things, how things are done in the US is not the way
they are done is the rest of the world.

  In Piet's (is my) country - The Netherlands - Android updates, both
version updates and security/other updates, are provided by the
manufacturer of the device (i.e. Samsung), *not* by the (network)
provider (i.e. T-Mobile).

  The same in true in most (all?) of Europe, Australia, etc., because
it's the only sensible/possible way to do things.

  For example consider these scenarios:

1. Non SIM-locked phone.

2. Wi-Fi only tablet.

  In these scenarios, there is no network provider which is tied to the
device (1.) or no network provider at all (2.). So how would/could the
owner of the devices get Android updates for these devices?

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Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-06 21:32 -0400
  Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 13:40 +0200
    Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 08:30 -0400
      Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-07 15:20 +0200
      Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 15:58 +0200
        Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-07 18:54 +0200
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:27 +0200
            Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-07 20:55 +0200
              Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 21:06 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 19:40 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 19:02 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-08 14:49 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 04:33 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:22 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:38 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 12:49 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:01 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 19:48 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 02:55 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:19 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 10:41 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:45 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 16:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 08:24 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-10 11:27 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-10 18:08 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? BugHunter <bughunter@com.invalid> - 2018-10-10 17:58 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 14:14 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:00 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-10 18:06 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:00 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:51 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 09:31 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:53 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 09:38 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 10:11 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 21:49 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 22:39 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 19:47 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 01:38 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 10:20 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:25 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 14:51 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 14:56 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 15:18 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-12 19:02 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:35 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 18:47 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-12 19:59 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-13 02:46 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-13 09:42 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-14 10:14 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-14 11:39 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-14 17:05 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-14 18:30 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-12 06:59 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:33 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 15:46 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 10:11 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 22:23 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-11 20:01 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-13 13:13 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-13 16:32 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-15 14:39 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:38 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:04 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:59 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 08:46 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 14:08 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:07 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-09 18:48 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:43 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 08:16 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 23:09 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 14:46 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 12:51 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-11 14:03 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 19:12 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-11 18:02 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 14:01 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-13 15:14 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-13 10:07 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 20:23 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:18 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:35 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:11 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 04:25 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:50 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-10 10:24 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:06 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:34 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:28 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:47 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:11 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:51 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:53 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:09 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:08 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:53 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:10 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:11 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 14:49 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:36 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 14:59 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:21 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 13:39 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:44 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 02:30 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-11 04:35 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 07:51 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2018-10-11 10:44 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-11 19:19 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-12 01:46 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 01:52 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-12 14:11 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 08:36 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 08:50 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-12 12:19 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-13 13:17 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 11:17 -0700
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-12 11:26 -0700
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 15:10 -0400
            Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 19:32 +0000
              Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 20:08 -0400
            Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2018-10-08 06:30 +0200
              Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 15:49 +0200
            Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-08 10:39 +0200
              Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:24 -0400
        Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 15:09 -0400
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 21:31 +0200
            Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 20:09 -0400
              Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 03:45 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-08 03:40 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 15:56 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 07:32 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 16:45 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-09 13:32 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-09 20:12 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-09 19:22 +0000
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2018-10-10 12:01 +0300
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-10 15:16 +0200
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-10 04:38 -0400
                Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-08 07:47 -0700
    Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> - 2018-10-07 13:04 -0400
      Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 17:28 +0000
        Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2018-10-07 18:50 +0100
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 18:48 +0000
        Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:26 +0200
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:27 +0200
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 18:48 +0000
      Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:34 +0200
        Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-07 20:46 +0200
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-07 19:13 +0000
            Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Piet <www.godfatherof.nl/@opt-in.invalid> - 2018-10-08 10:46 +0200
              Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-10-08 14:52 +0000
        Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 15:17 -0400
        Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-10-07 14:23 -0700
          Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-10-08 03:48 +0200
  Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> - 2018-10-07 17:29 -0700
  Re: Upgrading phone, which of these would you pick? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-10-07 20:09 -0700

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