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Re: sci.physics.relativity

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: sci.physics.relativity
Date	2018-06-30 22:06 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 1:52:27 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 4:55:35 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:36:21 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 10:09:22 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/27/18 8:22 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>>> SolomonW wrote:
>>>>>>>> Newton and Newtonian physics are not quite the same thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First of all, that is nonsense.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, it is true, fundamentally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Newton thought that space and time are "absolute". Today, we know that 
>>>>>> absolute space and time are irrelevant, because all of the Newtonian 
>>>>>> laws of physics are valid in any inertial frame (not just a single 
>>>>>> "absolute" frame).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So for the past century (at least), Newton's "absolute space and time" 
>>>>>> have had no effect on any modeling using Newtonian physics. IOW: they 
>>>>>> are just words with no impact.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That’s not truth. Absolute time is use to synch the GPS clock with
>>>>> the ground clock by redefining the GPS second to have 4,4647 more
>>>>> periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. [etc. etc.]
>>>> 
>>>> Absolute time is not used anywhere in physics today. You probably meant
>>>> some kind of "time by convention".
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Assertion is not a valid argument.
>> 
>> Regardless, I _assert_, based on my expertise in the field, that absolute
>> time is NOT used anywhere in physics today.
>> 
>> That's how it is, end of story.
> 
> Then your expertise is wrong. 

The one uneducated in physics is always the one that’s wrong. That’s you
Ken. Give it up. 

> For example: The whole purpose of the LT is to transform an interval of
> absolute time (such as a clock second) in the observer’s frame to the
> clock value on a moving clock wrt the observer. For example:
> Delta(t’)=gamma*Delta(t)
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-25 13:29 -0700
  Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 00:17 -0700
    Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 09:54 -0700
      Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-26 23:59 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-28 10:52 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-28 11:46 -0700
            Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-29 10:51 -0700
              Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 09:18 -0700
      Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 10:42 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:43 +0000
      Re: sci.physics.relativity Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 14:29 -0700
        Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 15:11 -0700
    Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 10:40 -0700
      Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:49 +0000
        Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 11:55 -0700
          Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 13:41 -0700
            Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-04 14:44 -0700
              Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:42 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:44 -0700
  Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-27 02:03 +1000
    Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-26 19:29 +0200
      Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-27 21:23 +1000
        Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-27 15:22 +0200
          Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-06-28 05:10 +1000
          Re: sci.physics.relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-28 09:09 -0500
            Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 11:36 -0700
              Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-28 12:36 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-28 16:55 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 10:52 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-30 12:49 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-30 21:53 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 19:05 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-07-03 06:44 +0000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2018-07-03 08:43 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-02 23:53 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 13:47 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 14:46 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-03 15:47 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-04 17:52 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-05 12:07 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-30 15:01 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 22:06 +0000
            Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-28 11:08 +0200
              Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-06-29 12:18 +1000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 18:49 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-01 13:05 +1000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-03 01:02 +0200
              Re: sci.physics.relativity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-29 10:11 -0500
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Oren Woodcock <uw@osiweoq.lp> - 2018-06-29 15:55 +0000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 19:14 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-10 11:32 +1000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-10 20:48 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Ování Bodrého <urh@nwroen.ol> - 2018-07-11 10:54 +0000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 05:00 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-07-12 20:30 +1000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 11:00 +0000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:31 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:29 +0200
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-12 09:39 -0700
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Olin Hayton <toa@nahslao.nh> - 2018-07-12 10:58 +0000
                Re: sci.physics.relativity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:34 +0200
            Re: sci.physics.relativity SolomonW <SoloomonW@citi.com.au> - 2018-06-29 12:02 +1000

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