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Re: Then you win.

From Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de>
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Subject Re: Then you win.
Date 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
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Am 06.11.16 um 14:16 schrieb Dr. Joachim Neudert:
> Insgesamt kommt da ein Plus von 500 bis 800 Mio raus.

Diese Zahl wird schon seit den ersten Tagen von Experten angezweifelt 
und das war vor dem (aktuellen) Kompromiss mit der günstiges 
Tagesvignette. Und durch die Staffelung der Steuerentlastung für 
deutsche KFZ-Halter schmälert sich dieser Betrag erneut.

Schon damals hatte der Bayer die Kosten für die Kontrollen unter den 
Tisch fallen lassen.

Meine aktuellen Infos sagen etwas anderes:
400 M€:
http://www.svz.de/deutschland-welt/wirtschaft/pkw-maut-zahlen-deutsche-autofahrer-drauf-id15260981.html

FDP zweifelt an einen Überschuß:
http://www.swr.de/landesschau-aktuell/rp/einnahmen-werden-aufgefressen-wissing-haelt-nichts-von-pkw-maut/-/id=1682/did=18431752/nid=1682/1hqfbkm/

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cu://Matthias.Eißing.de

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Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:14 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:22 +0000
  Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 21:43 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 20:48 +0000
      Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-11-03 22:03 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:08 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:14 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-03 21:27 +0000
              Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 23:16 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 13:53 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 06:00 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-04 09:01 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-04 09:15 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:46 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 02:51 -0700
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 10:54 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 03:08 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-11-07 09:31 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-09 21:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 10:38 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-05 09:57 +0000
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 11:10 +0100
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-05 12:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 18:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 10:18 -0700
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 20:23 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:33 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:08 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-11 12:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:31 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:22 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:26 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:29 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-07 17:57 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 18:04 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 15:06 +0100
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 16:34 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-06 00:17 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:09 -0800
                Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:32 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 13:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. lol <lol@lol.example> - 2016-11-05 10:16 +0000
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 10:00 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:59 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:19 +0100
  Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-11-03 21:45 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-11-03 20:53 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-04 09:57 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:51 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:59 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 08:08 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-11-04 20:45 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-05 07:16 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:21 -0800
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 03:52 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 04:11 -0800
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:14 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 14:17 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 14:43 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:48 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-07 15:12 +0100
            Re: Then you win. g.kuehne <kuehne123@front.ru> - 2016-11-08 05:56 +0100
          Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-07 15:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-11-08 09:32 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:18 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:27 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 12:35 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 14:20 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 00:56 -0700
    Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-04 09:09 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 01:04 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-11-04 14:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-11-04 16:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 13:37 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-06 13:43 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-11-04 17:11 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-04 17:23 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-05 02:52 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 10:00 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 11:50 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 13:57 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 14:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-06 17:35 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 17:40 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:02 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:05 +0100
            Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-11-06 18:12 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 09:07 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Enzinger <we_usenet@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-11-07 09:17 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-11-07 09:23 +0000
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-07 10:47 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-11-06 15:16 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-11-07 00:05 -0800
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-11-07 09:25 +0100
  Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-01 17:13 +0100
    Re: Then you win. "Juergen P. Meier" <nospam-1984@jors.net> - 2016-12-01 16:29 +0000
    Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 00:13 +0100
      Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 07:23 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 08:59 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 09:23 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:32 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:18 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-03 13:58 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nathan Hale <nobody@remailer.org.uk> - 2016-12-05 11:28 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-05 13:02 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2016-12-05 15:06 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:50 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 04:34 -0800
              Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-03 12:37 +0000
                Re: Then you win. Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 17:19 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dieter Sporer <dieter.sp@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 09:00 -0800
                Re: Then you win. Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-12-04 11:33 +0000
            Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-16 06:12 +0000
          Re: Then you win. "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2016-12-05 09:31 +0000
        Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:30 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:36 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 16:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-03 22:47 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-03 23:26 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:46 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 07:48 +0000
        Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 09:05 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:32 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 12:34 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-12-03 13:04 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-12-03 15:24 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:31 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-12-04 15:07 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-12-04 10:53 +0100
              Re: Then you win. Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2016-12-04 10:07 +0000
                Re: Then you win. spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-12-14 18:42 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 11:39 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-12-03 15:46 +0100
            Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:38 +0100
              Re: Then you win. "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-04 10:55 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Dietz Pröpper <dietz-news@rotfl.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 11:56 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 12:09 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:28 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
                Re: Then you win. Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-12-04 14:30 +0100
      Re: Then you win. Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-12-03 10:06 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-03 12:33 +0100
    Re: Then you win. Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-12-03 13:43 +0000
      Re: Then you win. "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2016-12-03 15:21 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-12-03 14:42 +0000
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 10:52 +0100
          Re: Then you win. Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2016-12-04 14:05 +0100
        Re: Then you win. Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-03 15:50 +0100

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