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Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit)

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit)
Date 2015-04-26 22:09 +0000
Organization ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/26/15, 2:22 PM, in article bbnvyc83.kajg@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> 
>>> (snip)
>> 
>>> I just tested it in the browser, I highlighted this...
>> 
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA512 
>> 
>>> This is a signing test.
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>>> Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org
>> 
>>> iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVPUcAAAoJEKLThH5e1B4r/8oH/2NuIb5h5PqoDhwXeGdQz9/D
>>> c6zpKqaLTdPXowVekEmS5CEbQKUBY8hokmaYGOEMaa3DMefIHN38YqWn5vRZ/AFC
>>> 4cYPmjgNepDCRn1t1L7gYFxBAuuSvcKiMpbVj3AZ6EFt4XLHsWFF13ojof6PyyBG
>>> F9OAlx/jI80PzctWEhMqk2U24OGPMTgkED487ZGtkp2IHHPTLnwG2iwWewecFRUG
>>> 9VKO/Fo/nRy5+CsLXDC+Svma/TOhuz7P9utDLiKO+bVTegoSJhPUc5MtvzKHsORi
>>> +8RMcXtrqkMZ8NxOpY2Ble9Q3SvCoCBGeUKJEpe8ubkAGAT6AaxLuUKVMgLF/Jg=
>>> =WB15 
>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>> 
>>> ... and I was able to 'verify' it was from me so it seems to be working (in
>>> other words, Google isn't munging it). So if this is working correctly... do
>>> I have the idea here with this:
>> 
>>> * I create a key pair and share the public half of it
>> 
>>> * I write a message and 'sign' it  (like I just quoted)
>> 
>>> * The end user grabs my public key (one time) and stores it in his GPG
>>> keychain
>> 
>>> * When the end user sees a signed message by me he simply highlights it and
>>> can verify it instantly with a mouse click (or however it's done in their
>>> system).
>> 
>>> I emailed myself a signed message and my mail app came back saying it was
>>> secure and from me. Seems like that's it, eh? Thanks, dude! I probably never
>>> would have gotten around to doing this if not for you, this is definitely a
>>> useful thing for a number of reasons. If you know, how secure is this? What's
>>> the "the trust level" bit? Is it based on me verifying it in the real world
>>> (like a phone call or something)?
>> 
>> The trust level, you get other people who trust your key to sign your
>> key.  If you get someone's pubkey and a lot of people you know have
>> signed it, then you can give it more trust.
>> 
>> I signed your pubkey.  Below is the signed version.  Anybody
>> importing that one will see that I have signed it, sort of like
>> vouching for this key.
>> 
>> owl@thinkpad:~$ gpg --edit-key fretwizzer
>> gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.10; Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
>> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>> 
>> 
>> pub  2048R/5ED41E2B  created: 2015-03-23  expires: 2019-03-23  usage: SC
>>                      trust: full          validity: full
>> sub  2048R/93129FA2  created: 2015-03-23  expires: 2019-03-23  usage: E
>> [  full  ] (1). Steve Carroll (GPG signing) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> [  full  ] (2)  Steve Carroll (Do you hear me now?) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> 
>> Command> check
>> uid  Steve Carroll (GPG signing) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> sig!3        5ED41E2B 2015-03-23  [self-signature]
>> sig!         D83A7ECF 2015-04-26  owl (usenet) <owl@rooftop.invalid>
>> uid  Steve Carroll (Do you hear me now?) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> sig!3        5ED41E2B 2015-03-23  [self-signature]
>> sig!         D83A7ECF 2015-04-26  owl (usenet) <owl@rooftop.invalid>
>> 
>> Command> quit
>> owl@thinkpad:~$ 
>> 
>> Your pubkey with my signature, showing that I vouch for the key:
>> 
>> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
>> 
>> mQENBFUQLckBCADQ5m8yvsb7TKlV3fNJtg6neTu8cpzIgffWR6LqlRhBbAdTGh4n
>> Tu2mDEa4LPH+r0BICQtEbMEXsHBgd9c4R8QkQz0Ugjc1R7zpfDDGZZ51Ke2ol+bY
>> QA1ssenYBdsMxFMY9CD28xhIx4D/QzRgKv8Xtfozyt0kvcjuOI6ruFtFchsidiz3
>> bQAYBkzcIxN5bsUtRnUagrMB2+VMgwfPgIXSUMtDLpkQTF0MjzsLKaxuh1SBpXAS
>> nJwuQndgrY6jiv78CBJNfWKK8Ouj6l3O3iita7bV+cmgdSxqAEUAWgZj926aJtH0
>> jjyesS7aersDse182FYLzUFowajG8+tRy0ELABEBAAG0MlN0ZXZlIENhcnJvbGwg
>> KEdQRyBzaWduaW5nKSA8ZnJldHdpenplckBnbWFpbC5jb20+iQFABBMBCgAqAhsD
>> BQkHhh+ABQsJCAcDBRUKCQgLBRYCAwEAAh4BAheABQJVEDLnAhkBAAoJEKLThH5e
>> 1B4rXpsH/jtQ+MpPdbq/qUR+ahlbI1UIqrhGnoudIWL6OBqRn2+fti+xxemhNb9I
>> 1HxzgZJ4ZMHNU9gkLWVg7OsIsNb09qJpULHECJ2VLTx93wOMAV57koH3E2wnO7tD
>> rmLoCfx5LbuIHg6QFhsYV+XcLH8OlcVPZwkrwUNKd8nL7oHPWyTTO1vFdRT+GNRX
>> sBNwFRc9dM928q7Vr1DYGPmlekSCSXMN6pdvWeQ7lqbq0KU+rlZPkA0o1BKEdT7A
>> n0TTRBBKMte8bzDWqxIMbMiqXJT8CrH+W27oKq1UxRt6CwyttY62Oca2UzAkz4K0
>> cCE/qaqQ09C0UFu3i+7zzHGjz7VtP1SJARwEEAECAAYFAlU9URgACgkQAkoOHNg6
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>> EWcVmhAjmDLvVCPcV5G14K8JAFvrKcuvm1DNcSsu6o3uPhmgTI+ZghO/+tw0svGi
>> 8r96SmAbuSsyKFuDD6Z7MdoGaxLP1VkOK0XmUga/m+l6wnRmZtcsVsUA8nSP1O88
>> tWab6dIMOfKaKR9vOE5clvP6iQEcBBABAgAGBQJVPVEYAAoJEAJKDhzYOn7PneUH
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>> JzkQqyhINioeZiLu0EeVy14kD86+qt/RR8YV7BmAeExe09UTTcBTeQ8x0reEqlKd
>> 7fb7QgfoH2Wd4AkAnBF1Yw7nA8SS3/fVCF6p37cJzTG7qKJnxwLEkJqBDsl2Fkyg
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>> =VKJW
>> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>> 
>> 
> Funny to see Carroll begging to get help so he can be trusted. :)

> In all seriousness, if he actually is willing to do this it would be great.
> It would end his nonsense about saying his past posts were "hacked"... if
> they were the key would fail. Then again, given how hacking his past posts
> is not possible anyway, it is not like he could not just say someone hacked
> the key, too.

> But it would make his claims even *more* unbelievable. Only people such as
> cc and DFS and anyone else he has sucking up to him could claim to believe
> him then.

> What it will also do, though, is give Carroll a way to even more easily deny
> what he calls his "aliases" - his other names and accounts (socks and
> secondary accounts). He *mostly* denies these already, though, so not a big
> deal.

> And, anyway, with the added overhead of doing this it might make him troll
> less - so let me go on record as saying that as long as Carroll is going to
> continue to post I am 100% for him doing this. Absolutely.

It can't prevent denial of an unsigned message.  But the sender of the
unsigned message can be challenged to resend it as a signed message.

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  Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 11:46 -0700
  Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-23 15:12 -0400
    Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-23 12:23 -0700
    Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 12:59 -0700
      Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-23 15:49 -0700
        Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-23 20:41 -0400
        Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 21:44 -0700
          Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-24 04:31 -0700
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              Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-24 20:08 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 10:49 -0700
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                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 11:53 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-25 19:18 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 12:25 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 09:54 -0700
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                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 12:23 -0700
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                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:00 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 21:22 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:32 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 21:50 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:01 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:05 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:35 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:35 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 14:40 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:09 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 15:21 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:21 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:40 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:47 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:51 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:49 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:56 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:00 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 23:32 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:46 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 00:00 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 17:02 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 17:08 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 00:47 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 18:14 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 01:41 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:04 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 02:32 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:38 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 02:46 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:59 -0700
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                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:38 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:45 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:58 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:04 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:06 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:12 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:20 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:55 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:57 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:02 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:59 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:04 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 19:01 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:11 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 19:47 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 17:11 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:06 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 20:47 +0000
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