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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) |
| Date | 2015-04-26 18:49 +0000 |
| Organization | ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand |
| Message-ID | <hbvj83.gko8a2@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <D16130C8.4AC67%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <nvbhdue0.ur3@rooftop.invalid> <535d4a2d-63f4-4490-bd22-ddbf19a50902@googlegroups.com> <bnvhdue03.jgkdu83@rooftop.invalid> <c447e2cc-b509-4648-afc2-9a9d70e378d2@googlegroups.com> |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 11:30:29 AM UTC-6, owl wrote: >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 1:18:20 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: ... >> >> > ... >> >> He could just sign messages with his private key and put an end to this >> >> nonsense. >> >> > When Desk Rabbit suggested this awhile back I went and got the Mac version of PGP key but I see no way to 'sign' posts made via Google Groups. If a reader doesn't have the public key... >> >> Why wouldn't the reader have the public key? > Who would bother? I've never done it for usenet. Why would you bother? You sure seem to be bothered about "forgeries." Isn't that enough reason to bother signing your messages and making your public key available? >> That's what it's for. Make >> it public. Put it on the web and link to it in the message itself if >> necessary. >> >> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/vDNdq6Aj6EQ/nQ3pffj7qu4J > That's not from GoogleGroups and it's probably using a newsreader app. Inferior as it may be to a dedicated app, I've gotten used to it now and, being browser based, it also works well on mobile. Have you tried posting a signed message through google? >> > ... that's what you get and it's useless. For those same readers, the gmail handle... >> >> How is that useless? Does it fail verification? > I have no idea. >> > i.e. 'fretwizzer' >> >> > or a "posting-account" number... >> >> > i.e. 'posting-account=qzPusQoAAADVdKNEKE-jqIVbecHp7oZ7' >> >> > ... in a header is the only way. Notable is Gluehead's ever present denial of reality stating: "if he were to do so and make it public that ONLY such comments were to be trusted it would be a good step forward." This is essentially what I've done when I alerted COLA about being hacked, what I've been doing all along by differentiating myself from the forgeries, I've made it "public that ONLY such comments were to be trusted" as coming from the one "posting-account". The reader can quickly see the 'fre twi >> zzer' handle and/or the 'Z7' at the end of the account number. If you can explain how to use the key on a post from Google Groups 'I'm all eyes' from a learning viewpoint... but being that most people probably aren't going to bother with the public key anyway, seems there isn't much point to it as it wouldn't really "put an end to this nonsense." >> >> Again, is google mangling messages so that they fail a signature check? > Dunno... I see no facility for signing it... if I could figure out how to do it I would. Try pasting a signed message into google groups compose window. >> Anybody who cared whether it was you or somebody else would need only >> to verify that the message was signed by you. People who would not care >> enough to be bothered with that don't care now either. > Agreed. Besides myself, take a look at the people who care... it's one person... and he's doing his usual and ridiculous hard sell attempt for those he believes are as stupid as he needs them to be. > It's possible there's a chrome extension that does it but I haven't seen any talk of it when searching; they do have one for email, though. Why do you need an extension or a facility for signing at google? Just compose a text message on your machine, sign it, and paste the signed message into google's compose window thingie. owl@thinkpad:~$ cat message a message from me owl@thinkpad:~$ gpg --output signed_message --clearsign message You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: "owl (usenet) <owl@rooftop.invalid>" 2048-bit RSA key, ID D83A7ECF, created 2015-04-26 gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session owl@thinkpad:~$ cat signed_message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 a message from me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVPS/NAAoJEAJKDhzYOn7PMC8H/1Mu7Pa9zmW/pAKhO9KFivCY 4r+DSaFoQMlcb4BHhtnQdB2waKQH9SWe6WLmhsvhVAsoFs6w/qCaGo9tqHYbm8WV TOk7nPLJMDiH9jnHCDsuFPnrWm2vQn/r7c7dwlvXv9YGFgm0plfdw1qRg/5+Tl9J vWiwct3/oFm63dUL7KxmNm/9X5+rI/elwrkm4D70vrMd9J/eBuhe8ULBkLBWqzDS UJhbcHVJoCPHz5AkIMdXnIBJLO56Lx0xrwg5zHLBsBlFLnOHZUCPD9b1OTNkHuJ/ 6+hqEUpAfhzF4ytly7mfp9aihvU/cY8+aORXjvOBkuGEfs61oGPcO5DwKw6owtM= =P3mC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- owl@thinkpad:~$ owl@thinkpad:~$ gpg --verify signed_message gpg: Signature made Sun 26 Apr 2015 02:34:53 PM EDT using RSA key ID D83A7ECF gpg: Good signature from "owl (usenet) <owl@rooftop.invalid>" owl@thinkpad:~$ Here's a public key: owl@thinkpad:~$ cat owl.asc -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) mQENBFU9I9EBCACZI8NiUxzLlQUmkYgfhVseeDfAroM7PcH5ZN4mPBiWeVpyl7E3 XOpm1P1G15Ds6eGOmUn+QY+P7LzyOtUsXxtqBlqePzHlgM3pS5kAh0PBECWMP3zE 7wcPYFhYRCoGhWHpY9dkXoqgkAcqekI3Nr+TkVwKDCHlwUq3m/pXk3uon+s11qHV 2GzJss/tii41t8Hb+wuV2cH/niQakp9FTt5bZqqDcbddvhvnhMPPqU0p1VtIS8Bm BC/Pb7zlcSz2N2CJ6xEek66MnbzaEUm7EX2HabIh4jCiOmjZX1KxNaRQ1hz5AB6m QxqACxq8Sl6esntnU7yFUphK4Xp9W9ynNLz/ABEBAAG0VG93bCAoY29sYSkgKGhh ZCB0byBoYXZlIGF0IGxlYXN0IDUgbGV0dGVycyBpbiByZWFsIG5hbWUgZmllbGQp IDxvd2xAcm9vZnRvcC5pbnZhbGlkPokBOAQTAQIAIgUCVT0j0QIbAwYLCQgHAwIG FQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQRUaq8oUq46jSGAf/ef4UcyzcBQURZq60xa6q wKTVnMi1A9PhR/eirukY5Qdq6JXnVb39UtU6s0LCmQVQxYytH78TBQUe4aob9HBc etcK95b3K1MMXN0yy8EMfLWLi46B+ZjXXlFjIIUPaBWw3ILd89Dc/zlA+njRguGn CcSu0xDnnlL24VPv4s9ECR7bSsds4Rkmy7KxGZKw5Y1nHh2wNmWbiBxDyYn7OQwZ mqZznd5XlgiZCodr5mJkSJteaZgDanWgIndSAk4VzAhp4LAaxy14buG4VWncjU9n cX15+bcBIhyntHmZU/Y2II6h6NVTgkOGwmxoUJg9NIcf+49utn4dRh/v20y3WX3a +LkBDQRVPSPRAQgAwKLsAjuRq70bgrV0mu7BwqUK/9W2dv/FZBk4BJtAr0uxo2Rr GgP5TXa3zZ6fy+LE9Lipu96cQFKTL22kGP/jIkabwLxtSBjqXaDIXF8fZpLtoY/T sWuvnsjtrzbBAlJd9H63FQ8IGDxL1U3VAavQeXWKQXVQ1C2sBWBSOFCMdCj4nQpA PUWUvCRX28fYbCr21vQXtL+3eC1a2FxeXFIfg67O9Q8TRhsmJagMLRSFwB3U6EH2 6tM8rOqAtaBGs12IxpvcFCpHrJPTqkX90fHAALKEmlJCHZ6E2I0UnugtOOOvQ02r y/55znm1eeOt5OEuzQVcc9G2Vj8Zu2YTlN8pUQARAQABiQEfBBgBAgAJBQJVPSPR AhsMAAoJEEVGqvKFKuOoacUIAJMhxkecGIU2FysUUS2LGshuuyGWCmlWFlIyF9iq jpZQyNNGeMpjN0fncUfc+3tl6KfyEcPN9IrouUpxjSst1ZzxbUL2seAzdBgO1BFo BJANIFQsIWZ6WB3Xh7ibGHYXYQNE4uD7jHGvQ8DMerTBQEtYho+h4HF2UjeVzWB6 lejNuoj3UHoGo3vtK74Q9dMvDDH6nkWl2R9tbZaN5Sok73+Ul+tvT2CXRtYo4Css 7UKFLISbNOV3jXvBitQBrIfI58nD9dgezXOfzlw+YLbDoULfA3bobKgv73oYVFRr Rzwo1FdGVQdwmKa+jw0stlvfzyPYGks6U6Voi+our9nzpFI= =JvsZ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- owl@thinkpad:~$
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OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 11:40 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 11:46 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-23 15:12 -0400
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-23 12:23 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 12:59 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-23 15:49 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-23 20:41 -0400
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 21:44 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-24 04:31 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 10:30 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-24 20:08 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 10:49 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-25 18:40 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 11:53 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-25 19:18 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-25 12:25 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 09:54 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 17:30 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 10:43 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 11:29 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 18:49 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 12:23 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 12:48 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 19:55 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 13:25 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 13:33 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:00 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 21:22 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:32 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 21:50 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:01 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:05 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:35 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:35 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 14:40 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:09 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 15:21 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:21 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:40 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:47 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:51 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:49 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 22:56 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:00 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 23:32 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:46 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 00:00 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 17:02 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 17:08 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 00:47 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 18:14 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 01:41 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:04 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 02:32 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:38 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 02:46 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:59 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:21 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:38 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:45 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:58 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:04 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:06 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:12 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:20 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:55 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:57 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:02 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:59 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:04 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 19:01 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:11 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 19:47 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 17:11 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:06 -0700
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 20:47 +0000
Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 12:40 -0700
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