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Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit)

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit)
Date 2015-04-26 22:40 +0000
Organization ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
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Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 4:09:33 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> > On 4/26/15, 2:22 PM, in article bbnvyc83.kajg@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 2:33:04 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> (snip)
>> >> 
>> >>> I just tested it in the browser, I highlighted this...
>> >> 
>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> >>> Hash: SHA512 
>> >> 
>> >>> This is a signing test.
>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>> >>> Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org
>> >> 
>> >>> iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVPUcAAAoJEKLThH5e1B4r/8oH/2NuIb5h5PqoDhwXeGdQz9/D
>> >>> c6zpKqaLTdPXowVekEmS5CEbQKUBY8hokmaYGOEMaa3DMefIHN38YqWn5vRZ/AFC
>> >>> 4cYPmjgNepDCRn1t1L7gYFxBAuuSvcKiMpbVj3AZ6EFt4XLHsWFF13ojof6PyyBG
>> >>> F9OAlx/jI80PzctWEhMqk2U24OGPMTgkED487ZGtkp2IHHPTLnwG2iwWewecFRUG
>> >>> 9VKO/Fo/nRy5+CsLXDC+Svma/TOhuz7P9utDLiKO+bVTegoSJhPUc5MtvzKHsORi
>> >>> +8RMcXtrqkMZ8NxOpY2Ble9Q3SvCoCBGeUKJEpe8ubkAGAT6AaxLuUKVMgLF/Jg=
>> >>> =WB15 
>> >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>> >> 
>> >>> ... and I was able to 'verify' it was from me so it seems to be working (in
>> >>> other words, Google isn't munging it). So if this is working correctly... do
>> >>> I have the idea here with this:
>> >> 
>> >>> * I create a key pair and share the public half of it
>> >> 
>> >>> * I write a message and 'sign' it  (like I just quoted)
>> >> 
>> >>> * The end user grabs my public key (one time) and stores it in his GPG
>> >>> keychain
>> >> 
>> >>> * When the end user sees a signed message by me he simply highlights it and
>> >>> can verify it instantly with a mouse click (or however it's done in their
>> >>> system).
>> >> 
>> >>> I emailed myself a signed message and my mail app came back saying it was
>> >>> secure and from me. Seems like that's it, eh? Thanks, dude! I probably never
>> >>> would have gotten around to doing this if not for you, this is definitely a
>> >>> useful thing for a number of reasons. If you know, how secure is this? What's
>> >>> the "the trust level" bit? Is it based on me verifying it in the real world
>> >>> (like a phone call or something)?
>> >> 
>> >> The trust level, you get other people who trust your key to sign your
>> >> key.  If you get someone's pubkey and a lot of people you know have
>> >> signed it, then you can give it more trust.
>> >> 
>> >> I signed your pubkey.  Below is the signed version.  Anybody
>> >> importing that one will see that I have signed it, sort of like
>> >> vouching for this key.
>> >> 
>> >> owl@thinkpad:~$ gpg --edit-key fretwizzer
>> >> gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.10; Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>> >> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
>> >> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> pub  2048R/5ED41E2B  created: 2015-03-23  expires: 2019-03-23  usage: SC
>> >>                      trust: full          validity: full
>> >> sub  2048R/93129FA2  created: 2015-03-23  expires: 2019-03-23  usage: E
>> >> [  full  ] (1). Steve Carroll (GPG signing) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> >> [  full  ] (2)  Steve Carroll (Do you hear me now?) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> >> 
>> >> Command> check
>> >> uid  Steve Carroll (GPG signing) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> >> sig!3        5ED41E2B 2015-03-23  [self-signature]
>> >> sig!         D83A7ECF 2015-04-26  owl (usenet) <owl@rooftop.invalid>
>> >> uid  Steve Carroll (Do you hear me now?) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> >> sig!3        5ED41E2B 2015-03-23  [self-signature]
>> >> sig!         D83A7ECF 2015-04-26  owl (usenet) <owl@rooftop.invalid>
>> >> 
>> >> Command> quit
>> >> owl@thinkpad:~$ 
>> >> 
>> >> Your pubkey with my signature, showing that I vouch for the key:
>> >> 
>> >> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>> >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
>> >> 
>> >> mQENBFUQLckBCADQ5m8yvsb7TKlV3fNJtg6neTu8cpzIgffWR6LqlRhBbAdTGh4n
>> >> Tu2mDEa4LPH+r0BICQtEbMEXsHBgd9c4R8QkQz0Ugjc1R7zpfDDGZZ51Ke2ol+bY
>> >> QA1ssenYBdsMxFMY9CD28xhIx4D/QzRgKv8Xtfozyt0kvcjuOI6ruFtFchsidiz3
>> >> bQAYBkzcIxN5bsUtRnUagrMB2+VMgwfPgIXSUMtDLpkQTF0MjzsLKaxuh1SBpXAS
>> >> nJwuQndgrY6jiv78CBJNfWKK8Ouj6l3O3iita7bV+cmgdSxqAEUAWgZj926aJtH0
>> >> jjyesS7aersDse182FYLzUFowajG8+tRy0ELABEBAAG0MlN0ZXZlIENhcnJvbGwg
>> >> KEdQRyBzaWduaW5nKSA8ZnJldHdpenplckBnbWFpbC5jb20+iQFABBMBCgAqAhsD
>> >> BQkHhh+ABQsJCAcDBRUKCQgLBRYCAwEAAh4BAheABQJVEDLnAhkBAAoJEKLThH5e
>> >> 1B4rXpsH/jtQ+MpPdbq/qUR+ahlbI1UIqrhGnoudIWL6OBqRn2+fti+xxemhNb9I
>> >> 1HxzgZJ4ZMHNU9gkLWVg7OsIsNb09qJpULHECJ2VLTx93wOMAV57koH3E2wnO7tD
>> >> rmLoCfx5LbuIHg6QFhsYV+XcLH8OlcVPZwkrwUNKd8nL7oHPWyTTO1vFdRT+GNRX
>> >> sBNwFRc9dM928q7Vr1DYGPmlekSCSXMN6pdvWeQ7lqbq0KU+rlZPkA0o1BKEdT7A
>> >> n0TTRBBKMte8bzDWqxIMbMiqXJT8CrH+W27oKq1UxRt6CwyttY62Oca2UzAkz4K0
>> >> cCE/qaqQ09C0UFu3i+7zzHGjz7VtP1SJARwEEAECAAYFAlU9URgACgkQAkoOHNg6
>> >> fs+ttAgAnmFuLqbCsNQryshj07LmTut/tqZjpeyBkFdZ/YHM1zBijGBz3OnmDaLR
>> >> kfHwDIi+VLYVAiHNbYivRNa1vgvqtIJiR7/Z9+4jD98M24JRZHU1gaqs/AzLOtJH
>> >> 5vG6+ns/DEMCE6JigEbR122ulkxpc+5Ej64AnuBkxtfSzdLFi1ntzmRWBB7gofWp
>> >> la97odN72aHj7e1t+0ihRJt8iu1vEiFYGaLeJsdGRsV4UWLvKZRz3V3KzNdCX+bS
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>> >> OxquVU0djs/8kKIlhab+EAe0V9vDFbQ6U3RldmUgQ2Fycm9sbCAoRG8geW91IGhl
>> >> YXIgbWUgbm93PykgPGZyZXR3aXp6ZXJAZ21haWwuY29tPokBPQQTAQoAJwIbAwUJ
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>> >> 8r96SmAbuSsyKFuDD6Z7MdoGaxLP1VkOK0XmUga/m+l6wnRmZtcsVsUA8nSP1O88
>> >> tWab6dIMOfKaKR9vOE5clvP6iQEcBBABAgAGBQJVPVEYAAoJEAJKDhzYOn7PneUH
>> >> /icCck+ToL0m0PYnkpvU8syCT2JanzeqJlQpDuYu/IBnwjisuJBcpplAOERiegat
>> >> fKlqEdLE0SDGdqa86nLD5FrTbEcsWqkSW0e3k0ixh+TnVsOacaJVKd4q5J2gjxE1
>> >> 0R3tA/9ZJdoNJDbWcA73TXpGmZQs6MhGv4MNBe8xfLEAXSDXp0vSpjvblpodSf9K
>> >> JzkQqyhINioeZiLu0EeVy14kD86+qt/RR8YV7BmAeExe09UTTcBTeQ8x0reEqlKd
>> >> 7fb7QgfoH2Wd4AkAnBF1Yw7nA8SS3/fVCF6p37cJzTG7qKJnxwLEkJqBDsl2Fkyg
>> >> 4XNnWCQzRIONZFoyVHhJLGu5AQ0EVRAtyQEIAMmCXdaZT0xabB41R1R3klH8/q70
>> >> UcupsnnVHoPD+26bKrQnvSF59wkxtlR7GkGE/zW6ekEG2rqX5A2DS5Ua9B7XBLbC
>> >> 09VhNNndamtBv3OVRkn8gxfxkNJ23agfgcqWBwIWzVvSKMuKo/Jn1A0ZycWkjyZq
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>> >> 0NvVHNvkknH1th28M7BJA//vgvpXlswuGr261CS1+YDD85gEAujyAdmD3YVfEmLa
>> >> qo3C30aqQzFPOSFh6/S2NQOPisMNms18gVyu6hIuiSArl2FN0TTRKmcLnUEAEQEA
>> >> AYkBJQQYAQoADwUCVRAtyQIbDAUJB4YfgAAKCRCi04R+XtQeK6rLCACEz/5KHqLQ
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>> >> NXxG8RDbM23Gi0lgjmL4EpERsJ3cQQ1JnxIyg+AqTa6BfiiidQZ+Ssnk1iI8jxgf
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>> >> X3XBJ7x68hqF
>> >> =VKJW
>> >> -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> > Funny to see Carroll begging to get help so he can be trusted. :)
>> 
>> > In all seriousness, if he actually is willing to do this it would be great.
>> > It would end his nonsense about saying his past posts were "hacked"... if
>> > they were the key would fail. Then again, given how hacking his past posts
>> > is not possible anyway, it is not like he could not just say someone hacked
>> > the key, too.
>> 
>> > But it would make his claims even *more* unbelievable. Only people such as
>> > cc and DFS and anyone else he has sucking up to him could claim to believe
>> > him then.
>> 
>> > What it will also do, though, is give Carroll a way to even more easily deny
>> > what he calls his "aliases" - his other names and accounts (socks and
>> > secondary accounts). He *mostly* denies these already, though, so not a big
>> > deal.
>> 
>> > And, anyway, with the added overhead of doing this it might make him troll
>> > less - so let me go on record as saying that as long as Carroll is going to
>> > continue to post I am 100% for him doing this. Absolutely.
>> 
>> It can't prevent denial of an unsigned message.  But the sender of the
>> unsigned message can be challenged to resend it as a signed message.

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512

> Now we know that, for all the crowing he's done on this topic, the 'IT Master' doesn't know how to do this. It literally takes a couple seconds to highlight text and 'sign' it. I'm not going to pretend you didn't square me away on this stuff and I appreciate it. Snit has this thread to follow and can start to sound like he has a clue from here on out... but he missed that opportunity when it mattered ;)

> (cue up another feeble, face saving attempt by the 'IT Master')

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org

> iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVPWOwAAoJEKLThH5e1B4rqhcIAJKrUgCyu/ECqSBmTzb6VoN/
> d/DWKjlSJ3veWtLllMemOScJkCRw5S4e/vePlsWf4Lz6zvc1AHTzZwEgfBJ+s6zM
> 34hCc4meQPV20/Klx8DY5AHlfhYWSX0e+3li3WQS2j6ERbOE4DIvQE2DsSAV2hrt
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> =qFIe
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


Bad signature.  What happened?  The other post was fine.

owl@thinkpad:~$ cat steve_post
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Now we know that, for all the crowing he's done on this topic, the 'IT Master' doesn't know how to do this. It literally takes a couple seconds to highlight text and 'sign' it. I'm not going to pretend you didn't square me away on this stuff and I appreciate it. Snit has this thread to follow and can start to sound like he has a clue from here on out... but he missed that opportunity when it mattered ;)

(cue up another feeble, face saving attempt by the 'IT Master')

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org

iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVPWOwAAoJEKLThH5e1B4rqhcIAJKrUgCyu/ECqSBmTzb6VoN/
d/DWKjlSJ3veWtLllMemOScJkCRw5S4e/vePlsWf4Lz6zvc1AHTzZwEgfBJ+s6zM
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ZirVuIkFPO07IF8uZTlNyy4ipEytP0e/Yf3YWEuFHSGeouuvHsOjb1RQGUQ2tVw=
=qFIe
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

owl@thinkpad:~$ gpg --verify steve_post
gpg: Signature made Sun 26 Apr 2015 06:16:16 PM EDT using RSA key ID 5ED41E2B
gpg: BAD signature from "Steve Carroll (GPG signing) <fretwizzer@gmail.com>"
owl@thinkpad:~$ 

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  Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 11:46 -0700
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    Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 12:59 -0700
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        Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 21:44 -0700
          Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-04-24 04:31 -0700
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                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 10:49 -0700
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                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 15:47 -0700
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                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:04 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 02:32 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:38 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 02:46 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:59 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:21 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:38 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:45 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:58 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:04 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:06 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 21:12 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:20 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 03:55 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:57 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:02 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:59 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-27 04:04 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 19:01 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 19:11 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 19:47 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 17:11 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 20:06 -0700
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-26 20:47 +0000
                Re: OT: IT Pros or anyone with a clue about TOR (not you Snit) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-26 12:40 -0700

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