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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

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Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 26.09.2016 01:59, schrieb Alex W.:
> 
>>> Actually I'm insecure, if surgery of some kind had belonged to what
>>> these doctors did.
>>> 
>>> But in principle they had the focus on keeping people healthy. This had
>>> to do with 'Chi' and 'Yin' and 'Yang', with five elements and a lot of
>>> meridians and so forth.
>>> 
>>> They tried to balance the energies and if they came out of balance, than
>>> people get sick. (somehow like that)
>>> 
>>> Accidents did happen and also injuries in war. But that was not the
>>> realm of herbs and acupuncture.
>>> 
>>> This is a concept, which modern medicine is missing (attempts to keep
>>> healthy people healthy).
>> 
>> Incorrect.
>> 
>> Preventative medicine is alive and well. Free annual check-ups,
>> nationwide screening schemes for breast and testicular cancers,
>> education campaigns on the benefits of exercise and vegetables in your
>> diet, more campaigns to educate on the dangers of drugs, alcohol and
>> tobacco .... modern evidence-based medicine does a lot to keep people
>> healthy.
>> 
> 
> Traditional Chinese medicine would not do that and screen for breast 
> cancer (for instance).
> 
> The very idea of breast cancer belongs to western medicine, hence has no 
> equivalence in what ancient Chinese doctors did.

This shows your lack of understanding about the history of traditional
Chinese medicine, Thomas. But go ahead and show us all how little you know
but are willing to play the roll of the buffoon.


> The Chinese believed, that 'Yin' and 'Yan' would float through the body 
> on certain 'meridians'. At certain points it would connect the body to 
> the environment and could be manipulated by the doctor.
> 
> The doctor tries to keep the energies in balance and hoped, this would 
> keep the person healthy.
> 
> This idea is obviously remote to western medicine, since it does not 
> concentrate on a disease (like e.g. cancer) but on health.

You do realize the yin and yang were religious beliefs, and when you
attempt to mix religious dogma with medicine you get nothing?

> But I'm not an expert in Chinese medicine, even I have read some books 
> about it. So you may inform yourself from other source like e.g. this one

LOL?

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine

Did you look,at the discussion pages Thomas? Much of what is written there
is in dispute. It is not at the point of a full blow edit war but nearly at
that point.

> 
>>> Actually a lot of common activities are not particularly healthy. This
>>> ranges from most sports over food to smoking.
>>> 
>>> E.g. people take very serious risks in certain activities, that are
>>> seemingly leisure, like e.g. paragliding or free-climbing.
>>> 
>>> Low hygiene increases the risk of infections.
>>> 
>>> Or people use drugs for entertainment and hurt their own body.
>>> 
>>> They would be better off, if they get up early in the morning and
>>> practise Tai Chi in the park.
>> 
>> Nothing to do with Chinese medicine, and everything with common sense
>> and an appreciation of moderation in everything.
> 
> 
> Well, no, since Tai Chi does belong to the realm of traditional Chinese 
> medicine.
> 
> It is actually difficult to learn and common sense does not help very 
> much.  So people should learn TCM from good teachers (and not from books).
 
Why would that make a difference? When tested properly, TCM fails.

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