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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

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Am 25.09.2016 18:02, schrieb Smiler:

>>>>> I think, the principles of traditional Chinese medicine are by far
>>>>> superior to what western doctors do (besides handing out pills).
>>>>>
>>>>> Chinese medicine also covers food, quality of homes, personal
>>>>> relations or weather.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a lot of physical treatments, which operate without
>>>>> synthetic drugs, like e.g. massage or acupuncture.
>>>>>
>>>>> To apply such form of treatment you need extensive training. And you
>>>>> need a teacher, that act more like a 'personal trainer'. So you could
>>>>> not learn Chinese medicine from books, but you need a trainer and a
>>>>> lot of practise.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Chinese medicine has as a main principle, that doctors try to
>>>>> avoid diseases and there efforts are, to hinder their patients from
>>>>> becoming sick.
>>>>>
>>>>> Western medicine is based on the idea of intervention and aims to
>>>>> cure a patient from a disease.
>>>>>
>>>>> So Chinese doctors see healthy patients, while western doctors see
>>>>> only sick patients.
>>>>
>>>> How did Chinese medicine eradicate smallpox?
>>>> How is Chinese medicine helping to eradicate polio?
>>>> How has Chinese medicine helped to find cures for cancers?
>>>
>>> Or even bubonic plague.
>>
>> The idea of Chinese medicine is trying to prevent people from getting
>> sick.
>>
>> To cure a disease is the principle of western medicine (not of
>> traditional Chinese medicine).
>>
>> To illustrate the difference I use as example a car.
>>
>> one paradigm is: careful use and early maintenance
>>
>> the other principle: careless use and pickup truck to the garage
>
> How does Chinese medicine prevent people from getting contagious diseases?
> How does Chinese medicine prevent people from getting cancers?
> Or, to use your analogy, how does it stop someone else from smashing into
> your stationary car?

'The main concept' is not the same as 'all they could do'.

Actually I'm insecure, if surgery of some kind had belonged to what 
these doctors did.

But in principle they had the focus on keeping people healthy. This had 
to do with 'Chi' and 'Yin' and 'Yang', with five elements and a lot of 
meridians and so forth.

They tried to balance the energies and if they came out of balance, than 
people get sick.  (somehow like that)

Accidents did happen and also injuries in war. But that was not the 
realm of herbs and acupuncture.

This is a concept, which modern medicine is missing (attempts to keep 
healthy people healthy).

Actually a lot of common activities are not particularly healthy.  This 
ranges from most sports over food to smoking.

E.g. people take very serious risks in certain activities, that are 
seemingly leisure, like e.g. paragliding or free-climbing.

Low hygiene increases the risk of infections.

Or people use drugs for entertainment and hurt their own body.

They would be better off, if they get up early in the morning and 
practise Tai Chi in the park.


TH

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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 04:56 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 05:03 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:42 +0000
                Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:17 -0600
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:25 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2016-09-24 15:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:32 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 22:06 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:36 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:18 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 13:56 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 16:02 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-25 11:04 -0500
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:23 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 18:54 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 09:59 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 07:35 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:27 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-27 06:10 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 12:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:14 +0000
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                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 00:39 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 14:07 +0200

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