Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	alt.atheism, sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Atheism is Witchcraft
Date	2016-09-26 07:35 +0200
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Am 26.09.2016 01:59, schrieb Alex W.:

>> Actually I'm insecure, if surgery of some kind had belonged to what
>> these doctors did.
>>
>> But in principle they had the focus on keeping people healthy. This had
>> to do with 'Chi' and 'Yin' and 'Yang', with five elements and a lot of
>> meridians and so forth.
>>
>> They tried to balance the energies and if they came out of balance, than
>> people get sick. (somehow like that)
>>
>> Accidents did happen and also injuries in war. But that was not the
>> realm of herbs and acupuncture.
>>
>> This is a concept, which modern medicine is missing (attempts to keep
>> healthy people healthy).
>
> Incorrect.
>
> Preventative medicine is alive and well. Free annual check-ups,
> nationwide screening schemes for breast and testicular cancers,
> education campaigns on the benefits of exercise and vegetables in your
> diet, more campaigns to educate on the dangers of drugs, alcohol and
> tobacco .... modern evidence-based medicine does a lot to keep people
> healthy.
>

Traditional Chinese medicine would not do that and screen for breast 
cancer (for instance).

The very idea of breast cancer belongs to western medicine, hence has no 
equivalence in what ancient Chinese doctors did.

The Chinese believed, that 'Yin' and 'Yan' would float through the body 
on certain 'meridians'. At certain points it would connect the body to 
the environment and could be manipulated by the doctor.

The doctor tries to keep the energies in balance and hoped, this would 
keep the person healthy.

This idea is obviously remote to western medicine, since it does not 
concentrate on a disease (like e.g. cancer) but on health.

But I'm not an expert in Chinese medicine, even I have read some books 
about it. So you may inform yourself from other source like e.g. this one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine


>> Actually a lot of common activities are not particularly healthy. This
>> ranges from most sports over food to smoking.
>>
>> E.g. people take very serious risks in certain activities, that are
>> seemingly leisure, like e.g. paragliding or free-climbing.
>>
>> Low hygiene increases the risk of infections.
>>
>> Or people use drugs for entertainment and hurt their own body.
>>
>> They would be better off, if they get up early in the morning and
>> practise Tai Chi in the park.
>
> Nothing to do with Chinese medicine, and everything with common sense
> and an appreciation of moderation in everything.


Well, no, since Tai Chi does belong to the realm of traditional Chinese 
medicine.

It is actually difficult to learn and common sense does not help very 
much.  So people should learn TCM from good teachers (and not from books).

TH

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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:32 +0000
  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-17 22:27 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-09-18 06:35 +0000
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-18 07:49 -0500
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:35 -0700
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 01:02 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-20 08:21 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-20 20:04 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 04:56 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-22 01:16 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-23 05:03 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-24 02:42 +0000
                Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-23 23:17 -0600
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-24 17:25 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> - 2016-09-24 15:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:32 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 22:06 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:36 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:18 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 13:56 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 16:02 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-09-25 11:04 -0500
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 16:23 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 18:54 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-26 09:59 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 07:35 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:27 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-27 06:10 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 12:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-25 21:42 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 01:14 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-09-25 00:39 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-25 14:07 +0200

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