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Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition?

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Krypsis wrote
> GMAN wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> GMAN wrote
>>>> AndyHancock<andymhancock@gmail.com>  wrote

>>>>> I was talking to tech support about cloning all 4 partitions in my
>>>>> Toshiba Satellite A660 laptop to a smaller auxiliary HDD (not
>>>>> creating an image, but a clone -- recoverable image may be in the
>>>>> plans in the future).  If the laptop HDD suffers a hardware
>>>>> failure, I can drop the clone into the laptop, be up and running
>>>>> (and source down a new HDD). Alternatively, the newer (faster)
>>>>> HDD can displace the current HDD.

>>>>>  From asking in forums, partition 1 is for booting, partition 2
>>>>> is the C-drive, and partitions 3&  4 are for various recovery
>>>>> operations and content.  According to experienced posters,
>>>>> Acronis True Image and Norton Ghost will both adjust partition 2
>>>>> in the cloning process so that all partititions fit in the target
>>>>> HDD, without requiring the partitions to be resized in the source
>>>>> HDD.  I find it reassuring that I don't have to mess with the
>>>>> partitions on the source HDD until I've confirmed the integrity&  full functionality of all
>>>>> partitions in the target HDD.

>>>>> However, one Toshiba forum poster said that shrinking partition 2
>>>>> causes partitions 3&  4 to start at lower locations, and he found
>>>>> that the recovery functionality was lost.  I didn't ask for
>>>>> further details but there are two functions he could be referring
>>>>> to: (1) the creationg of recovery discs using a dedicated Toshiba
>>>>> app and (2) restoring to factory state (Toshiba's are designed to
>>>>> do this by pressing 0 during power up).  I want to retain both
>>>>> functions (1) and (2) in the clone.

>>>> The second you booted that laptop out of the box new, you should
>>>> have proceeded to create those recovery DVD's using the built in app.

>>> No need to do it that urgently when it will be replaced under
>>> warranty if it fails very early before its been used for anything much.

>> Most the time, the warranty doesnt cover when someone messes up
>> their pc due to a software issue. Like if someone went and manually deleted a critical windows DLL , the pc 
>> manufacturer would just tell the customer to resintall from their recover disks or partition.

>> Maybe its different there in Australia, but here in the US software
>> issues are not covered under warranty.

>>> The reason its desirable to ensure that they can be created anytime
>>> is because it isnt hard to mislay the recovery disks after they
>>> have been created.

>> Agreed, but most pc makers ony allow the creation of 1 set of disks
>> and then the software wont create anymore. I always copy the disks after i have made the recovery set and keep them 
>> at a relatives house.

> Rod doesn't seem very methodical with his media.

You have absolutely NO idea what I do with my media.

> I'm glad people like him don't work in the IT department at my office.

I run it, child.

> I recently created some restore disks for a friend and their system
> allowed for three sets to be made. Some computers don't seem to have a limit at all. Regardless, I create one set and 
> clone those.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you do things by
rote without considering what makes sense in a particular situation.

> Then I archive them and their ISO images.

And then scoot around the room on your bare arse to keep the floor clean, you're so anal.

> This saves an immense amount of grief later.

Not if the system never needs them. And very few ever do. Let alone all those extra copys and images.

> It's not as if it is difficult to do.

Plenty of wastes of time arent difficult to do. 

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Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 16:31 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 17:57 +1100
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-06 09:46 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-07 08:02 +1100
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 21:55 -0800
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:15 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:12 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:50 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 16:27 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 16:39 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 08:14 +1100
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 21:35 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 14:46 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 22:07 -0800
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:19 +0000
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-08 06:28 +1100
                Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:51 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:33 +1100
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:31 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-07 15:44 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:09 +1100
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-01-08 01:40 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 06:54 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:19 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:56 +0000

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