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Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition?

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AndyHancock wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> GMAN wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> GMAN wrote

>>>>> The second you booted that laptop out of the box new, you should
>>>>> have proceeded to create those recovery DVD's using the built in app.

>>>> No need to do it that urgently when it will be replaced under warranty
>>>> if it fails very early before its been used for anything much.

>>> Most the time, the warranty doesnt cover when someone messes up
>>> their pc due to a software issue.

>> You dont need the recovery disks for that, thats what the diskless
>> recovery is for.

> I made the Toshiba recovery discs as soon as I started to learn about
> backing up, which started when I tried to find a solution to HDD cloning.

Yeah, thats a good idea when you arent sure you have the basics right yet.

It does give you more options if you manage to stuff things up
and say cant use the diskless recovery because you have moved
the partition that does that and the system is too crude to allow it
to work after its been moved.

>>> Like if someone went and manually deleted a critical
>>> windows DLL , the pc manufacturer would just tell the
>>> customer to resintall from their recover disks or partition.

>> And since that doesnt affect the recovery partition, you dont need the recovery disks.

> I didn't tell the full story.  The auxiliary cloned HDD is a higher
> performance drive, so I will swap it with my internal HDD.

OK.

> The latter will become the auxiliary target for weekly cloning.
> So the recovery partitions will no longer be in my internal HDD.
> That doesn't ncessarily preclude using them for their intended
> purpose, since the auxiliary drive will be connected to the
> laptop via eSATA -- the machine can boot from eSATA.

> It would be much nicer, though, if the recovery partitions were
> in my (new higher performance) internal HDD.  This might free
> enough space in the auxiliary drive for images (the auxiliary
> drive was originally the internal HDD, and is the larger HDD).

Thats a more risky config tho, easier to stuff that up.

>>> Maybe its different there in Australia, but here in the
>>> US software issues are not covered under warranty.

>> Thats just plain wrong if the software is faulty as supplied.

> I'm in Canada, and I'm not sure what the rule is.

Its the same, if it was supplied defective, or goes bad due to
something the manufacturer stuffed up that sees it develop
a fault due to that, its still covered by warranty.

Arno is just plain wrong on that.

>>>> The reason its desirable to ensure that they can be created
>>>> anytime is because it isnt hard to mislay the recovery disks
>>>> after they have been created.

>>> Agreed, but most pc makers ony allow the creation of
>>> 1 set of disks and then the software wont create anymore.

>> He says that that isnt true with that Toshiba.

> I'm not actually sure,

The systems that only allow one set of recovery disks to be burnt usually say that.

> but I will find out by going through the cloning and testing process.
> Worse that can happen is that it I can't reburn recovery discs.

Yes, but you can certainly copy those to cover the situation where you lose one set.

Obviously it makes no sense to keep all the copys in one place.

> That solves the problem right there.

>>> I always copy the disks after i have made the
>>> recovery set and keep them at a relatives house.

>> I dont bother, because they are buyable in the unlikely event
>> that your house burns down or is washed away by a flood etc.

>> If I need to use them after an event like that, the laptop is normally history too.

> That's always a possibility too, but for now, I'll proceed as if they will do some good.

Yeah, they might be needed if you stuff up the reconfig of the original drive.

I normally just clone the entire physical drive, but then I have lots of
2TB drives which are currently the best $/GB and have lots because
I am too lazy to clean up the drives that I use for overflow of the PVR,
what has replaced the VCRs etc.

And I havent had just one computer for quite literally decades either. 

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Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 16:31 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 17:57 +1100
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-06 09:46 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-07 08:02 +1100
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 21:55 -0800
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:15 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:12 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:50 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 16:27 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 16:39 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 08:14 +1100
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 21:35 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 14:46 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 22:07 -0800
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:19 +0000
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-08 06:28 +1100
                Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:51 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:33 +1100
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:31 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-07 15:44 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:09 +1100
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-01-08 01:40 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 06:54 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:19 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:56 +0000

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