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Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition?

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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On 7/01/2012 8:35 AM, GMAN wrote:
>> In article<9mp6gsFg7lU1@mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed"<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> GMAN wrote
>>>> AndyHancock<andymhancock@gmail.com>  wrote
>>>
>>>>> I was talking to tech support about cloning all 4 partitions in my
>>>>> Toshiba Satellite A660 laptop to a smaller auxiliary HDD (not
>>>>> creating an image, but a clone -- recoverable image may be in the
>>>>> plans in the future).  If the laptop HDD suffers a hardware failure,
>>>>> I can drop the clone into the laptop, be up and running (and source
>>>>> down a new HDD). Alternatively, the newer (faster) HDD can displace
>>>>> the current HDD.
>>>
>>>>>  From asking in forums, partition 1 is for booting, partition 2 is the
>>>>> C-drive, and partitions 3&  4 are for various recovery operations and
>>>>> content.  According to experienced posters, Acronis True Image and
>>>>> Norton Ghost will both adjust partition 2 in the cloning process so
>>>>> that all partititions fit in the target HDD, without requiring the
>>>>> partitions to be resized in the source HDD.  I find it reassuring
>>>>> that I don't have to mess with the partitions on the source HDD
>>>>> until I've confirmed the integrity&  full functionality of all
>>>>> partitions in the target HDD.
>>>
>>>>> However, one Toshiba forum poster said that shrinking partition 2
>>>>> causes partitions 3&  4 to start at lower locations, and he found
>>>>> that the recovery functionality was lost.  I didn't ask for further
>>>>> details but there are two functions he could be referring to: (1) the
>>>>> creationg of recovery discs using a dedicated Toshiba app and (2)
>>>>> restoring to factory state (Toshiba's are designed to do this by
>>>>> pressing 0 during power up).  I want to retain both functions (1) and
>>>>> (2) in the clone.
>>>
>>>> The second you booted that laptop out of the box new, you should
>>>> have proceeded to create those recovery DVD's using the built in app.
>>>
>>> No need to do it that urgently when it will be replaced under warranty
>>> if it fails very early before its been used for anything much.
>>
>>
>> Most the time, the warranty doesnt cover when someone messes up their pc due
>> to a software issue. Like if someone went and manually deleted a critical
>> windows DLL , the pc manufacturer would just tell the customer to resintall
>> from their recover disks or partition.
>>
>> Maybe its different there in Australia, but here in the US software issues are
>> not covered under warranty.
>>
>>>
>>> The reason its desirable to ensure that they can be created anytime is because
>>> it isnt hard to mislay the recovery disks after they have been created.
>>>
>>>
>> Agreed, but most pc makers ony allow the creation of 1 set of disks and then
>> the software wont create anymore. I always copy the disks after i have made
>> the recovery set and keep them at a relatives house.
>>
> Rod doesn't seem very methodical with his media. I'm glad people like 
> him don't work in the IT department at my office.

That is not actually his problem. His problem is that he does
not unterstand the subject matter and hence cannot distinguish 
good from bad information. At the same time he desparately wants
to give good information and hence is trying to be a bit ahead of 
others. That is the reason why he sometimes gives good information 
even when most what he says is just plain wrong.

It is rather painful to watch.

> I recently created some restore disks for a friend and their system 
> allowed for three sets to be made. Some computers don't seem to have a 
> limit at all. Regardless, I create one set and clone those. Then I 
> archive them and their ISO images. This saves an immense amount of grief 
> later. It's not as if it is difficult to do.

You should not trust them until you have made a good restore on a
blank disk. Other than that, this is certainly a sound approach.

Arno
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Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 16:31 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 17:57 +1100
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-06 09:46 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-07 08:02 +1100
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 21:55 -0800
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:15 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:12 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:50 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 16:27 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 16:39 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 08:14 +1100
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 21:35 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 14:46 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 22:07 -0800
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:19 +0000
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-08 06:28 +1100
                Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:51 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:33 +1100
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:31 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-07 15:44 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:09 +1100
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-01-08 01:40 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 06:54 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:19 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:56 +0000

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