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Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition?

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GMAN wrote:
> In article <9mp6gsFg7lU1@mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> GMAN wrote
>>> AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>> I was talking to tech support about cloning all 4 partitions in my
>>>> Toshiba Satellite A660 laptop to a smaller auxiliary HDD (not
>>>> creating an image, but a clone -- recoverable image may be in the
>>>> plans in the future).  If the laptop HDD suffers a hardware
>>>> failure, I can drop the clone into the laptop, be up and running
>>>> (and source down a new HDD). Alternatively, the newer (faster) HDD
>>>> can displace the current HDD.
>>
>>>> From asking in forums, partition 1 is for booting, partition 2 is
>>>> the C-drive, and partitions 3 & 4 are for various recovery
>>>> operations and content.  According to experienced posters, Acronis
>>>> True Image and Norton Ghost will both adjust partition 2 in the
>>>> cloning process so that all partititions fit in the target HDD,
>>>> without requiring the partitions to be resized in the source HDD.
>>>> I find it reassuring that I don't have to mess with the partitions
>>>> on the source HDD until I've confirmed the integrity & full
>>>> functionality of all partitions in the target HDD.
>>
>>>> However, one Toshiba forum poster said that shrinking partition 2
>>>> causes partitions 3 & 4 to start at lower locations, and he found
>>>> that the recovery functionality was lost.  I didn't ask for further
>>>> details but there are two functions he could be referring to: (1)
>>>> the creationg of recovery discs using a dedicated Toshiba app and
>>>> (2) restoring to factory state (Toshiba's are designed to do this
>>>> by pressing 0 during power up).  I want to retain both functions
>>>> (1) and (2) in the clone.
>>
>>> The second you booted that laptop out of the box new, you should
>>> have proceeded to create those recovery DVD's using the built in
>>> app.
>>
>> No need to do it that urgently when it will be replaced under
>> warranty
>> if it fails very early before its been used for anything much.

> Most the time, the warranty doesnt cover when someone messes up their
> pc due to a software issue.

You dont need the recovery disks for that, thats what the diskless recovery is for.

> Like if someone went and manually deleted a critical
> windows DLL , the pc manufacturer would just tell the
> customer to resintall from their recover disks or partition.

And since that doesnt affect the recovery partition, you dont need the recovery disks.

> Maybe its different there in Australia, but here in the
> US software issues are not covered under warranty.

Thats just plain wrong if the software is faulty as supplied.

>> The reason its desirable to ensure that they can be created anytime is because
>> it isnt hard to mislay the recovery disks after they have been created.

> Agreed, but most pc makers ony allow the creation of
> 1 set of disks and then the software wont create anymore.

He says that that isnt true with that Toshiba.

> I always copy the disks after i have made the
> recovery set and keep them at a relatives house.

I dont bother, because they are buyable in the unlikely event
that your house burns down or is washed away by a flood etc.

If I need to use them after an event like that, the laptop is normally history too. 

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Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-05 16:31 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 17:57 +1100
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-06 09:46 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-07 08:02 +1100
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 21:55 -0800
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:15 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:12 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:50 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 16:27 -0800
  Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 16:39 +0000
    Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 08:14 +1100
      Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-06 21:35 +0000
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 14:46 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 22:07 -0800
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 14:19 +0000
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "john james" <jj@jj.com> - 2012-01-08 06:28 +1100
                Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:51 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:33 +1100
              Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:31 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-07 15:44 +0000
            Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 07:09 +1100
        Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Krypsis <krypsis@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-01-08 01:40 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 06:54 +1100
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 13:19 -0800
          Re: Does shrinking a partition lop off content at top of partition? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-07 22:56 +0000

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