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Re: Aperture ?

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Aperture ?
Date 2015-03-27 23:10 -0400
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In article <cnj5gbFmj2qU6@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> It's a big deal to me in principle, because the software *disables*
> >> itself if no ping is made. I find that *very* distasteful. In contrast,
> >> you can generally expect software that you purchase rather than rent to
> >> continue working indefinitely as long as your system remains compatible.
> >> It's fully within your control.
> >
> > the reality is that everyone is online all the time
> 
> That's untrue. I have computers that aren't online all the time, 

big deal. you still have computers that are online all the time.

> and
> some people have computers that are never or rarely online. 

not enough to matter and those are more than likely not their main
machine.

other stuff won't work if a system is off the grid, such as google
apps, dropbox and much more. 

> Creative
> Cloud is not attractive to those people. Other competing solutions are
> much more attractive.

nobody said creative cloud is for everyone. that's a straw man.

> > and pinging once a month (or every 90 days for yearly customers) is
> > not an issue.
> 
> It is an issue for some people, including me. Not sure why you are
> having such a hard time accepting it.

i have no problem accepting it.

why can't *you* accept that subscription software works out quite well
for many people?


> 
> > but there are still gaping holes, such as camera raw
> 
> Photo already supports raw editing through the Develop persona. Since
> it's still in beta, it's still under development, and Affinity has said
> raw editing is in active development. I wouldn't call that a "gaping
> hole".

their raw support is not as good as adobe's, which is widely considered
to be the best in the industry. 

plus apple's support for new cameras lags that of adobe and affinity is
using dcraw which gives rather poor results compared to other raw
converters, plus it's not all that fast.
 
> > interoperability with lightroom, the wealth of plugins (not just
> > filter plugins) and much, much more. 
> 
> Now you just sound like an Adobe salesman. "Oh, but competitors can't
> use our plugins, and aren't integrated with our tools!". 

straw man.

if there's a photoshop plugin that someone needs or even just wants to
use, then the competing apps are a non-starter. it's that simple.



> > affinity designer does not support camera raw which is a show stopper
> > right there for a *lot* of people, who get photoshop for *just* that
> > feature.
> 
> You're wrong. Not only does the current beta support raw editing, but
> Affinity is actively developing more raw editing functionality.

i'm not wrong.

camera raw is an adobe proprietary plugin that uses private photoshop
apis, i.e., it *can't* work in third party apps, and for lightroom,
camera raw it's integrated into the app itself.

other apps may have raw processing but it is not camera raw.

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            Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 15:29 +0000
              Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 11:57 -0400
                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 16:02 +0000
                Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 12:23 -0400
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                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 18:12 +0000
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            Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 15:57 +0000
              Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 12:00 -0400
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                Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 13:51 -0400
                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 18:17 +0000
                Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:10 -0400
                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:02 +0000
                Re: Aperture ? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-26 11:02 -0700
                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 18:44 +0000
                Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:10 -0400
                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:11 +0000
                Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 13:32 -0400
                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-26 19:37 +0000
                Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:10 -0400
                Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 14:24 +0000
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              Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:10 -0400
            Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 23:10 -0400
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      Re: Aperture ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 17:53 -0400
      Re: Aperture ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-25 22:14 +0000
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