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Re: New authorization required for only ONE account

From The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.thunderbird
Subject Re: New authorization required for only ONE account
Date 2025-05-18 08:22 -0700
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On 5/17/25 22:10, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 5/16/25 11:47, VanguardLH wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 5/16/25 06:10, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I finally got the forward from AccountA to AccountB to work, and then I 
>>>>> made a filter to put the forwarded messages into a new 'folder' so I 
>>>>> have one viable workaround.  I opened a new gmail account to possibly 
>>>>> use if I can't recover AccountA, but having to notify serious entities 
>>>>> of the new email address is fraught with peril for various reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently you want a magic bullet that repairs the problem without you
>>>> doing anything.  
>>> 
>>> Not fair.  I've spent days working on this.  The problem is that I'm 
>>> flailing around in the dark.  Last night I was getting messages in both 
>>> accounts.  When I turned on my machine this morning TB said there were 
>>> NO NEW MESSAGES in either account.  Website showed a few new messages in 
>>> AccountA and over a dozen new messages in AccountB but nothing forwarded 
>>> from A to B.  POP enabled.  Forward enabled.  It also told me that my 
>>> Firefox beta was an unsupported browser.
>> 
>> You just created the new AccountB, and already have over a dozen e-mails
>> in it?
> 
> No, it's unused so far.
>> When using their webmail app, and go to fowarding settings at
>> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#settings/fwdandpop, is AccountB
>> specified as to where forwarding points?  If it is not your AccountB
>> Gmail account, you'll have to "Add a forwarding address".
> 
> Yes.  Forwarding from A to B.  Now works, but see below.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf7k0ibk2Dg
>> Despite the title for the video, the author is NOT showing how to
>> forward from Gmail to Gmail, but how to forward from Gmail to non-Gmail.
>> I haven't used the server-side forwarding option in Gmail for many
>> years, but when I tried back then to forward from one Gmail account to
>> another Gmail account, I was informed that Gmail won't forward to Gmail.
> 
> They must have changed their mind(s).
>> When you setup forwarding in your Gmail account, and if you selected
>> "Keep a copy", you should see in both AccountA and AccountB the same new
>> messages after forwarding was enabled.  All new e-mails in AccountA
>> should end up duplicated in AccountB.
> 
> Yes.
>>> I don't believe in poltergeists, but I don't see how things can change 
>>> themselves.
>> 
>> Did you check POP access was enabled up in your Gmail account?
> 
> Yes, but there's no need yet.
>>> The new account is just sitting there.  I haven't told TB about it 
>>> because I haven't decided what I want to do with it.
>> 
>> Oh, I thought you created the new AccountB Gmail account, added it to
>> Tbird, and were checking status in Tbird.  So, for the new AccountB
>> Gmail account, you are only using the webmail app, right?
> 
> Correct.
>>>> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/12418290?hl=en
>>>> 
>>>> 2 years inactive (you not logging in via client or webmail) is a long
>>>> time, but also more than long enough for you to forget to get your
>>>> e-mail client to login, or use their webmail app.  You might want to set
>>>> a yearly reminder in Tbird to log into your old Gmail account.
>>> 
>>> Since I regularly send mail from A and B that would seem to be inapplicable.
>> 
>> But, at this point, you said you cannot log into AccountA Gmail using
>> Tbird.  You would have to use their webmail app until the issue is
>> resolved in Tbird.
> 
> Account A is still blocked from TB, but I can forward to Account B and
> download it from B.  BUT...
> 
> Stuff works now, except that when I start TB in the morning (I shut down
> my computer at night) no unloading happens automatically, although it
> should -- TB settings are download on startup and every 3 minutes
> thereafter for all accounts including Eternal September.  Nothing, even
> after repeated GET MESSAGES clicks.

THE MYSTERY SOLVED, and I can take partial blame.  Down at the bottom of 
the account list, way off scale, are four defunct nntp servers that I 
never figured out how to get rid of.  I zeroed out all of the connection 
settings, but ONE of them insisted on trying really hard to connect and 
wouldn't let the other accounts try until it finally gave up.  I just 
happened to see the 'connecting with oldusa server' thing in the bottom 
bar and went hunting.

I have never before seen the big red DELETE button;  I had wanted to get 
rid of these long ago but was never able to.  Has this always been there 
but only visible if you sort of back into it or is it a new thing added 
after TB82?
> So I go to the website, tap a different POP setting, tap it back again,
> hit SAVE and mail starts to download.  This has happened yesterday and
> today.  The website ALWAYS says POP is enabled before I do anything.
> Does the website feel unloved?
> 
> Moreover, TB seems to switch the setting on the accounts from UNREAD to
> ALL whenever it feels like it.

This still happens.
> I ran a bootable system backup last night and am going to try some
> catastrophic changes in it tomorrow, maybe.
Maybe...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "If you expect to score points by whining, join a
    European soccer team."
                               --Demotivators poster

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New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 07:30 -0700
  Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-14 16:48 +0100
  Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-05-14 16:53 +0100
    Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> - 2025-05-15 00:04 +0000
      Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-05-15 12:27 +0100
  Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 10:32 -0700
    Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-05-14 18:01 -0700
      Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-15 10:53 +0100
        Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-05-15 12:35 +0100
        Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-16 07:46 +0100
      Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-15 06:22 -0400
        Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 14:01 -0700
          Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-05-16 11:44 +0100
  Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-14 13:52 -0500
    Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 13:26 -0700
      Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-14 23:53 -0500
      Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-15 00:11 -0500
        Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-15 09:37 -0400
        Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Jack Lemmon <Jack.Lemmon@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-15 22:54 +0100
          Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 18:31 -0700
  Re: New authorization required for only ONE account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-14 21:50 +0200
    Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 13:14 -0700
      Re: New authorization required for only ONE account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-14 22:32 +0200
      Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-14 21:46 +0100
        Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 14:59 -0700
          Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-15 00:02 -0500
            Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 23:21 -0700
              Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-15 03:18 -0500
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-15 14:23 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-16 08:10 -0500
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 09:08 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-05-16 10:07 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-16 10:45 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-05-16 11:31 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 22:12 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-16 13:47 -0500
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-17 06:13 -0500
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 22:22 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 22:10 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-18 08:22 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-18 18:55 +0200
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-18 18:04 +0100
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-18 12:10 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-17 11:30 +0200
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-17 06:28 -0500
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 22:31 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-18 11:51 +0200
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-18 08:05 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-18 18:57 +0200
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account Operation Sindoor <operation.sindoor@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-18 22:36 +0000
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-18 20:31 -0700
                Re: New authorization required for only ONE account The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-17 22:18 -0700
              Re: New authorization required for only ONE account "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-15 13:01 +0200

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