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Re: Linux?

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Linux?
Date 2018-09-07 12:40 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <070920181240240855%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <pmmn22.bqo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <050920181415472167%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pmro9u.46o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <060920182016219789%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pmucpi.brs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>

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In article <pmucpi.brs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> > >   Given that he does not want Google to 'spy', it's unlikely that the OP
> > > will want/enable Location Services,
> > 
> > as it turns out, disabling that doesn't actually matter:
> > 
> > <https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17684660/google-turn-off-location-hi
> > story-data>
> >   You may have assumed that turning off Google¹s Location History
> >   option meant that Google is no longer tracking your movements. But
> >   the reality is that Google can continue to collect location data and
> >   even track you on a minute-by-minute basis, remembering your home
> >   address, and other places you¹ve visited throughout the day, the
> >   Associated Press reports.
> 
>   As usual, you don't pay attention to the context.

that would be you.

>   The OP doesn't want Google spying on him, so - unless he's stupid - he
> is not going to use Google products, apps (such as the (Google) Maps
> example), services, etc..

android is a google product. or have you forgotten that part?

there's no need to use maps or other google apps. most non-google apps
include google analytics, and may check location data as well. and
that's in addition to what android, the os, is doing.

<https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/21/technology/google-data-collection/inde
x.html>
  Short of chucking your phone into the river, shunning the internet,
  and learning to read paper maps again, there's not much you can do 
  to keep Google from collecting data about you.
...
  The researchers claims that almost every move you make online is
  collected and collated, from your morning routine (such as music
  tastes, route to work, and news preferences) to errands (including
  calendar appointments, webpages visited, and purchases made).
  "At the end of the day, Google identified user interests with
  remarkable accuracy," the report states.
...
  "It's nearly impossible to do anything digitally without Google
  collecting data on you," said Kint.

tl;dr you're being tracked.

>   So the *real* context is an Android tablet without a Google account or
> with a fake Google account (for using the Play Store). I recommend(ed)
> the former.
> 
>   So the *only* Google stuff is Android (without any Google apps) and
> *perhaps* a *fake* Google account and the Play Store.
> 
>   With/in *that* context, Google can get no personal information about
> the user.

oh yes they can, and do. they're not fooled by a fake account. 

using a custom rom can minimize it (and not without compromises), but
it isn't zero.

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            Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 14:15 -0400
              Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 15:32 +0000
                Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 20:16 -0400
                Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 15:33 +0000
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