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I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

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  I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
    Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:31 -0500
          You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 14:53 -0500
              Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:08 -0500
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:13 +0000
                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:42 -0500
                Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
                  Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
                  "The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:06 -0400
                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:26 +0200
                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:29 -0400
                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 15:42 +0000
                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:00 -0400
                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 16:11 +0000
                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:37 -0400
                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 18:51 +0200
                                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:59 -0400
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 19:04 +0200
                                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 17:48 +0000
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:09 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:30 +0000
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 12:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:50 -0400
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-05 15:47 -0700
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 14:14 -0500
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:21 -0500
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0500
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:33 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:40 -0500
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400
                                                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:37 -0500
                                                        Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:01 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000
                          What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:17 -0700
                            Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:31 -0400
                              Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:45 +0000
                            Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:35 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:21 -0500
                    Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:02 +0200
                      Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:26 -0400
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
            Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:46 -0700
              Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:26 -0700
              Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:29 -0700
          Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2015-08-04 15:40 -0700
            Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 22:59 +0000
            Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 23:00 +0000
              Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:45 -0500
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 01:38 -0400
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:46 -0400
      Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 13:54 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:16 +0000
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:26 -0500
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-04 21:35 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:50 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:57 -0400
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-04 21:38 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 23:36 -0700
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:48 +0000
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:53 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:28 -0500
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:47 +0000
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:06 -0500
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:52 -0500
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 00:22 +0000
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 07:50 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 11:45 -0500
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 17:10 -0500
              Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:21 -0700
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:37 +0000
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 18:56 -0500
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 08:11 -0400
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:09 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:24 -0400
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:09 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0400
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:22 -0400
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:30 -0400
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:34 -0500
                          Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:03 -0700
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 17:48 +0000
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:59 -0500
                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 08:42 -0500
                                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 17:35 +0000
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:57 -0500
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 19:44 +0000
                                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:03 -0500
                                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 20:23 +0000
                                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 15:45 -0500
                                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-07 21:05 +0000
                                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:38 -0500
                                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:04 -0700
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:59 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 14:00 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:19 -0500
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0700
                                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:17 -0500
                                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-08 01:01 +0000
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-07 19:03 -0700
                                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 03:38 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:05 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 13:51 +0000
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:56 -0500
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:32 -0400
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:07 +0000
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Apollyon <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:11 -0700
                          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:05 -0500
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:16 -0700
                            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:45 +0000
                              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 16:52 -0500
                                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 22:26 +0000
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 01:24 -0400
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:43 -0400
                        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 07:43 -0500
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0700
              Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 16:30 -0700
                Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:05 -0400
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:50 -0700
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:00 +0000
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                    Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Buck Futter" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-08-05 22:35 -0700
                      Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 01:50 -0700
                  Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:18 -0500
          I'm watching you right now. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:19 -0700
            Re: I'm watching you right now. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-04 16:36 -0500
            Re: I'm watching you right now. Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-04 17:16 -0700
              Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:41 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-06 12:29 -0700
              Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 03:47 +0000
                Re: I'm watching you right now. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:11 -0500
                  Re: I'm watching you right now. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:22 +0000
                    Re: I'm watching you right now. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-06 00:53 +0000
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 08:55 -0500
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2015-08-05 21:30 +0000
        Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "Mahipal" <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 17:44 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:01 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:34 -0500
        Indirectly, you (chrisv) see my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:46 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:54 -0400

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#511383 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/5/2015 10:56 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
> You're absolutely right the user is not being compensated for access to
> personal data. This is precisely the business model for facebook,
> Google, and now Microsoft. The revenue stream for those providers is
> based almost entirely on targeted advertizing. In exchange for the
> information you WILLINGLY provide by subscribing to their service, they
> do not charge you for the service. GMail, Google Maps, basic Google
> Drive, Google Doc apps, YouTube, and all the other Google services are
> free in the sense that you don't fork over money. You fork over
> information about you, and other companies pay Google for the
> information you've forked over.


As they say, if it's free, *YOU* are the item for sale.




>
> Microsoft has joined that model with Windows 10. You will never pay for
> a Windows operating system again in your lifetime. It will be upgraded
> regularly for free. There will no longer be a significant revenue stream
> associated with the sale of Windows 10. In exchange, you are forking
> over information that Windows 10 is empowered to collect, and you agree
> to it by clicking Agree on the Terms of Use.
>


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#511420 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:56:07 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> This is precisely the business model for facebook, 
> Google, and now Microsoft.
>

The disgusting thing about it all is that these businesses are now the
LARGEST CORPORATIONS in the USA.  They supplant GM, US Steel, and even
Exxon.

Our society is being sustained by personal information brokers.  What
a joke.  

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#511422 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 1:07:58 PM UTC-5, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:56:07 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> 
> > This is precisely the business model for facebook, 
> > Google, and now Microsoft.
> >
> 
> The disgusting thing about it all is that these businesses are now the
> LARGEST CORPORATIONS in the USA.  They supplant GM, US Steel, and even
> Exxon.
> 
> Our society is being sustained by personal information brokers.  What
> a joke.
http://www.dailydot.com/technology/megan-smith-cto-google/
In her new position as White House CTO, Smith will work with the Office of Science and Technology Policy on applying her considerable experience in the tech industry to everything from job creation to broadband Internet access.

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#511442 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/5/2015 1:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:56:07 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>> This is precisely the business model for facebook,
>> Google, and now Microsoft.
>>
>
> The disgusting thing about it all is that these businesses are now the
> LARGEST CORPORATIONS in the USA.  They supplant GM, US Steel, and even
> Exxon

Yes, because they offer something that people consider to be more 
valuable than what GM, US Steel, and Exxon offer. And so they are wildly 
successful.

These people are building ecosystems where, once you are logged into one 
of their services, you enjoy the benefits of the other tied-in services. 
And on top of that, there is a network effect of being in a community of 
people that are in the same ecosystem, which adds exponentially 
increasing value to belonging.

Apple is especially good at building the ecosystem that "just works" 
with bulletproof ease and lowest-possible frustrations in use. This is, 
today, the most valuable offering that any company can offer. And so 
Apple is the largest company in the world.

>
> Our society is being sustained by personal information brokers.  What
> a joke.
>



-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#511463 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:00:50 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/5/2015 1:00 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> > On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:50:25 -0700, Mahipal wrote:

My content got deleted, fine. HVAC wrote the next two lines.

> >>> Why would you even care if 'they' are tracking you? Personally I like
> >>> the feeling that someone is watching over me. Don't you?
> >
> > No, you don't.

Actually HVAC is the kind of person who always sides with GIC
(Governmental Industrial Complex). The GIC only does good, per HVAC.

> > If within every brick-and-mortar store that you entered there was a
> > mysterious stranger closely following you around the aisles and making
> > detailed notes about your activities, you would *not* like it.
> >
> > If there was an eavesdropper lurking around your home and peeking
> > over the fence or trying to peer into windows at all hours of the
> > day, you also would *not* like it.
> 
> That's different. A mysterious stranger or an eavesdropper is not 
> someone you've entered into a contractual arrangement with. You have not 
> given permission to an eavesdropper to peek at your doings.

The operators behind BigData are all mysterious strangers to each and
every one of us personally.

> If someone offered a free service to be your assistant, helping arrange 
> your schedule, reminding you of things you need to do, making you aware 
> of changing circumstances that you may need to respond to, handling some 
> menial tasks so that you don't have to, and fending off people who want 
> to get in touch with you about business you have no interest in, would 
> you be interested in that free service?

There's no free service. Even paid services grant you no privacy. It's 
not a cost/price issue.

> Yes, I believe a lot of people would be interested in that, especially 
> if it is free.

It's not a cost/price issue. But I repeat myself. The more you pay,
the less privacy you have. Need proof? Heard of IRS? Accountants?

> Now, if in the contract you signed for this free service, suppose it was 
> clear that the assistant was going to be with you a good portion of the 
> day, aware of the things you're saying, the people you're talking to, 
> things that are on your to-do list. Suppose it was clear that you were 
> authorizing this agent to go out and buy some things for you and knew 
> your credit card details. Would you still be interested in that free 
> service?
> 
> Yes, I believe a lot of people would still be interested in that, 
> especially if it is free.

FREE free Free, isn't America the Land of the Free? Ironic that.

> Now, what if this contract also specified that the assistant could 
> assemble and analyze the data gathered from you and all the other 
> clients the assistant serves? What if this contract specified that the 
> analyzed data, appropriately anonymized, would be sold to 3rd parties 
> you don't know?

When one turns off the geolocation tracking services on one's CPU and
on his/her @#smartestphone, built upon OOP languages of course, where
most developers have only access to the public APIs, who knows what
the private methods/functions do, ..., is geotracking really off?!

> A lot of people say, sure, as long as the data is anonymized, go for it. 
> It's a free service and the assistant has to make a living somehow, right?

Odd, you can justify anything that is so obviously wrong. That's a skill!

> > Well, the same god-damned thing is happening in the digital universe,
> > and, if you truly understood the nature of it all, you certainly
> > would not approve.

Btw, Fabian, ignore Sam Wormley, suddenly he can see the truth! Oye...

> -- 
> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

-- Mahipal 

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#511470 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:05:35 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> 
> Yes, because they offer something that people consider to be more 
> valuable than what GM, US Steel, and Exxon offer. And so they are wildly 
> successful.
> 

Oh dear me, I forgot to mention Disneyland.  They are also right up
there as one of the biggest American corporations.

So, cheap fantasy and self-indulgent narcissism is somehow more valuable
than steel, oil, and automobiles.

In your dreams, perhaps, but then you are just another deluded client of
the dream merchants.
 

> 
> Apple is especially good at building the ecosystem that "just works" 
> with bulletproof ease and lowest-possible frustrations in use. This is, 
> today, the most valuable offering that any company can offer. And so 
> Apple is the largest company in the world.
> 

What you are describing is a cheap transmogrification of computing.

When personal computers first came into being, which was somewhere
in the late 1970's in the form of the IBM PC and others, one could
do nothing with them without actual programming.  These machines
booted up directly into the BASIC interpreter and the user had to
compose simple programs or programming commands in order to accomplish
even the simplest of tasks.

A computer is a GENERAL PURPOSE machine.  In itself, it is nothing.
The user is responsible for creating the transformation into a productive
entity based on the user's desire.

Apple, inferring from your description above, does not make computers.
Rather it produces "appliances" that are highly fixed and directed in
their capabilities.

What we see, then, in these latest gadgets, is an extreme limitation
of the power and potential afforded to the user.  This is a lamentable
degradation of technology.  Apple, and its corporate cohorts, should be
jeered and not lauded.

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#511476 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/5/2015 3:45 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:05:35 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, because they offer something that people consider to be more
>> valuable than what GM, US Steel, and Exxon offer. And so they are wildly
>> successful.
>>
>
> Oh dear me, I forgot to mention Disneyland.  They are also right up
> there as one of the biggest American corporations.
>
> So, cheap fantasy and self-indulgent narcissism is somehow more valuable
> than steel, oil, and automobiles.

Yes, the US economy is no longer driven on the back of manufacturing of 
hard goods. We are a dominantly service-based economy and have been for 
some years.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/01/the-shift-from-manufacturing-to-service-economy/

So which businesses are more "valuable" is best assessed by what's 
paying the bills in the US. Today. Not nostalgia from post-WWII days.

>
> In your dreams, perhaps, but then you are just another deluded client of
> the dream merchants.
>
>
>>
>> Apple is especially good at building the ecosystem that "just works"
>> with bulletproof ease and lowest-possible frustrations in use. This is,
>> today, the most valuable offering that any company can offer. And so
>> Apple is the largest company in the world.
>>
>
> What you are describing is a cheap transmogrification of computing.
>
> When personal computers first came into being, which was somewhere
> in the late 1970's in the form of the IBM PC and others, one could
> do nothing with them without actual programming.  These machines
> booted up directly into the BASIC interpreter and the user had to
> compose simple programs or programming commands in order to accomplish
> even the simplest of tasks.
>
> A computer is a GENERAL PURPOSE machine.  In itself, it is nothing.
> The user is responsible for creating the transformation into a productive
> entity based on the user's desire.

That's what it was in the 1970s, when it was a tool used for research 
and hobbyists. Then, the computer had no intrinsic value for the end 
user unless the user added quite a bit of effort and expertise to give 
it value.

The vision of the personal computer, which probably started more with 
the Xerox Alto than with the Apple II or the IBM PC, was to *change* the 
character of the computer to exactly what you describe below: an 
appliance. An appliance with the simplicity of use of a light switch or 
a blender or a car radio.

That's because MOST people do not want general purpose machines, for the 
same reason they do not want kits to make cars or a pile of wood and 
bricks to make homes. They want things that offer value on their own 
without requiring a lot of effort of their own, and without having to 
acquire expertise. This was recognized right away by Jobs et al. when 
they visited Xerox PARC, and they saw how to make a personal computer 
that would actually appeal to a large market.

>
> Apple, inferring from your description above, does not make computers.
> Rather it produces "appliances" that are highly fixed and directed in
> their capabilities.

I disagree. This is precisely the appeal of the smart phone with an app 
storefront. On Apple's app store, there are now 1,500,000 apps roughly. 
The premise of the smartphone+app-marketplace is that most people do not 
need or do not want an omnibus device or omnibus software that does 
everything. Most people want a device that does a FEW things, but 
everyone has a DIFFERENT few things. So everyone's phone becomes 
customized to their own lifestyle and interests. So the device and 
software is HIGHLY flexible, but with the objective of delivering to 
each end user a small amount of functions that are really all they want. 
Anything more than that becomes not worth the effort of ownership.

>
> What we see, then, in these latest gadgets, is an extreme limitation
> of the power and potential afforded to the user.  This is a lamentable
> degradation of technology.  Apple, and its corporate cohorts, should be
> jeered and not lauded.
>

Most people really don't share your vision of the wonder years of the 
Homebrew Computer Club, which by the way had dissolved by 1987. I'm 
pretty sure Heathkit is pretty much defunct. However, there is a lively 
though small community of homesteaders that make their own log cabins.

As a matter of disclosure, I myself am part of a dying breed of 
craftsmen. The difference between you and me is that I accept my deep 
minority status, acknowledge the reasons why my line of work is not 
really mainstream anymore, and refrain from despairing about the state 
of the world.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#511479 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 16:52:17 -0500, Odd Bodkin wrote:

> 
> We are a dominantly service-based economy and have been for 
> some years.
>

Yes, the service of dreams, special effects, and personal info
brokering.  The intrinsic merit of these services is something
of which no society should be proud.


> 
> So which businesses are more "valuable" is best assessed by what's 
> paying the bills in the US. Today. Not nostalgia from post-WWII days.
> 

The importance of "hard good" manufacturing is that it maintains a pool
of real scientific/engineering talent that has repercussions beyond
any actual economic use.


> 
> They want things that offer value on their own 
> without requiring a lot of effort of their own, and without having to 
> acquire expertise. This was recognized right away by Jobs et al. when 
> they visited Xerox PARC, and they saw how to make a personal computer 
> that would actually appeal to a large market.
> 

The result of this has been widespread computer illiteracy which
has had extremely deleterious consequences.  This is why fax machines,
an antiquated technology, still prevail in most businesses.  This
is why tons of paper are still being pushed within most offices,
even though the US Congress passed legislation authorizing e-documents
and e-signatures for any purpose.  Such progressive ideas cannot
be implemented by the current ignorant work force.  The average
American business is stuck in the 1950's and unable to adapt to
a changing world.

I happen to be involved in free-lance contract work for various
businesses and dealing with these general office throwbacks is 
frustrating in the extreme.  They understand nothing about the
possibilities and potential of software applications.

But now, these same titans that destroyed general purpose computing
for the sake of mass-market convenience are now pushing for
more computer science education.  Gates and Zuckerberg (and Jobs
if he were still alive) have formed some sort of coalition to 
address the abysmal state of computer training in the USA.

Would this be happening if the early PC's had forced all users
to obtain a knowledge of basic programming and digital principles?

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#511695 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 08/05/2015 09:09 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 8/5/2015 7:11 AM, A.M wrote:
>> Disgusting, more spying from Apple and Google.
>
> There are people (usually wealthy) that have personal assistants. These
> personal assistants provide essential lubrication in their employers'
> lives. The downside of having a personal assistant is that the assistant
> knows a great deal about you -- where you go, what your daily routines
> are, what your preferences and needs are, where you shop and what you
> tend to buy there, who you know closely and who are more removed
> acquaintances, and what your schedule is. If you're uncomfortable with
> anyone knowing these things without you, then you dispense with a
> personal assistant and do everything yourself.
>
> The makers of personal technology -- Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft --
> are keenly aware that the majority of their market want some sort of
> digital personal assistant, and they want it more than they want their
> privacy. So the makers of personal technology are catering to the needs
> of their market.
>
> Now, there are certainly some people who feel differently -- that
> privacy is more important than having a personal assistant. But these
> people are in the minority, and so the onus is on them to reach into the
> controls of the technology products and turn off all the invasive
> aspects. Basically, if you buy a technology product, you have to
> proactively fire your assistant. Of course, some of the capabilities of
> the technology product may be compromised by doing so, and that's
> another thing you have to accept.

Boinker, secret police everywhere have always told me that if you are 
doing nothing wrong, why should anyone worry about a lack of privacy?

I mean, you DO love Big Brother, don't you?

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#511714 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/7/2015 1:24 AM, benj wrote:
>
>> Now, there are certainly some people who feel differently -- that
>> privacy is more important than having a personal assistant. But these
>> people are in the minority, and so the onus is on them to reach into the
>> controls of the technology products and turn off all the invasive
>> aspects. Basically, if you buy a technology product, you have to
>> proactively fire your assistant. Of course, some of the capabilities of
>> the technology product may be compromised by doing so, and that's
>> another thing you have to accept.
>
> Boinker, secret police everywhere have always told me that if you are
> doing nothing wrong, why should anyone worry about a lack of privacy?
>
> I mean, you DO love Big Brother, don't you?


It doesn't matter. Always remember, BJ...Big Brother(tm) loves YOU


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#511724 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/7/2015 4:43 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 8/7/2015 1:24 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>>> Now, there are certainly some people who feel differently -- that
>>> privacy is more important than having a personal assistant. But these
>>> people are in the minority, and so the onus is on them to reach into the
>>> controls of the technology products and turn off all the invasive
>>> aspects. Basically, if you buy a technology product, you have to
>>> proactively fire your assistant. Of course, some of the capabilities of
>>> the technology product may be compromised by doing so, and that's
>>> another thing you have to accept.
>>
>> Boinker, secret police everywhere have always told me that if you are
>> doing nothing wrong, why should anyone worry about a lack of privacy?
>>
>> I mean, you DO love Big Brother, don't you?
>
>
> It doesn't matter. Always remember, BJ...Big Brother(tm) loves YOU
>
>

Because, as benj knows, anyone who is the victim of internet fraud or 
identity theft must have been guilty of something.

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#511409 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/5/15, 5:11 AM, in article mpsuet$agh$1@dont-email.me, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
wrote:

> On 2015-08-04 6:21 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> Quoting:
>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-and-google-know-what-you-want-before-you-do
>> -1438625660
>> 
>> Apple and Google Know What You Want Before You Do.
>> 
>> New technology for smartphones will monitor activity
>> and send information before it is requested; locking
>> in loyal users.
>> 
>> Apple and Google are preparing new smartphone apps
>> that will monitor and predict users¹ activity and
>> supply information before it is requested.
>> 
>> By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Alistair Barr
>> Aug. 3, 2015 2:14 p.m. ET  69 COMMENTS
>> 
>> Apple Inc. and Google Inc. are racing to anticipate
>> the needs of their users.
>> 
>> The technology giants, whose software runs nearly all
>> of the world¹s smartphones, are adding features to
>> deliver information before users ask for it. Their
>> moves suggest that smartphones will evolve into
>> devices that dispense information unprompted.
>> 
>> The companies are tackling the technology
>> differently, reflecting their own expertise and
>> priorities. Apple¹s Proactive Assistant, a feature of
>> its forthcoming iOS 9 software, aims to learn how a
>> user will behave from information stored on an
>> iPhone. By contrast, Google Now combs data from a
>> universe of online services and searches.

...

> Disgusting, more spying from Apple and Google.

With Apple the info comes from your phone and stays on your phone. Apple
gets very little if any of it. Unlike Google and MS they are making it very
public how little data they are collecting from you.

Frankly I am happy to see that.



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#511280 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 6:10:18 PM UTC-4, gilber34 wrote:
> On 8/4/2015 4:16 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:54:47 -0700, Double-A wrote:
> >
> >> I heard something about that Microsoft was going to start spying on us with
> >> the comera as of Win10!  Or was it the mike?  Both?  Or was it Google?
> >> Do you know about that?

Start spying? Start?! He he... I needed a good laugh. Thanks.

> > Windows 10 gives Microsoft a direct data link to the user machine.
> > Data in droves of all kinds will be automatically transfered to
> > Microsoft servers on a regular basis -- unless the user shuts
> > it off one by one during install and during a post-install configure.

I tried getting the new MSOFFICE 2016 for Mac earlier today. Major
hyped, what you've always been waiting for, changes finally made!
Yet... Though the website accurately identified me by name {Hello
Mahipal}, I don't remember signing in however, it said my account was
incapable of downloading the new SW. Open new account, MS site
insisted?! I left the site.

> > They ain't fooling around this time.  Windows 10 makes the user
> > a part of Microsoft's local network.

The Cloud, it's not just a choice, there's no DVD players on new Macs.

> is that true ?

If you have to ask...

> WSJ today had article that Apple and Google are going to be doing that 
> with their cellphones

Going to be? That's one way to make the ever persistent BREAKING NEWS.

Ask this of self: Is your CPU or #smartestphone really off when you
turn it off? When you put electrical tape over the camera, or mike, do
the(y)TheThem send drones to watch you for your own ...youKnow Safet(y)?

-- Mahipal 'If you wanted not to be stalked, I mean tracked, then you
   ought not have been born Buddy. Just pray, you do not become prey.'

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#511344 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/4/2015 7:30 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>
> Ask this of self: Is your CPU or #smartestphone really off when you
> turn it off? When you put electrical tape over the camera, or mike, do
> the(y)TheThem send drones to watch you for your own ...youKnow Safet(y)?


Why would you even care if 'they' are tracking you? Personally I like 
the feeling that someone is watching over me. Don't you?


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#511402 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 8:04:44 AM UTC-4, HVAC wrote:
> On 8/4/2015 7:30 PM, Mahipal wrote:
> >
> > Ask this of self: Is your CPU or #smartestphone really off when you
> > turn it off? When you put electrical tape over the camera, or mike, do
> > the(y)TheThem send drones to watch you for your own ...youKnow Safet(y)?
> 
> Why would you even care if 'they' are tracking you? Personally I like 
> the feeling that someone is watching over me. Don't you?

Watching over you HVAC would be a painful job. No pain, no gain?

Let me count the ways why I care. From One too Infinity. One will do.

No Third-Party, in the name of selling me life or health insurance, or
a mobilephone, giving an entire shit that I happened to buy only one
and not theirs particular brands, has any right or priviledge to scan my
past's shopping habits, to establish that I like Golf and play Tennis,
and enjoy a vodka martini after. Nobody's business.

If I have nothing to hide, then I'm a sweet cuddly innocent USA human!
Yeah, sure, right. Ok, so who is Stalking they the them Stalkers? I
assume you've seen the recent set of police events where
theyTheWatchers go out of their way to cover up the actual events. If
not, go pay attention.

Some father shot down a drone recently, for it was stalking his
daughter who happened to be sunbathing in her backyard. Where would
those videos be posted? They arrested the father, not the drone's
owner stalker. Justice my ass.

> -- 
> Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
> HAIL HYDRA!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

-- Mahipal

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#511417 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:50:25 -0700, Mahipal wrote:

>> 
>> Why would you even care if 'they' are tracking you? Personally I like 
>> the feeling that someone is watching over me. Don't you?
> 

No, you don't.

If within every brick-and-mortar store that you entered there was a
mysterious stranger closely following you around the aisles and making
detailed notes about your activities, you would *not* like it.

If there was an eavesdropper lurking around your home and peeking
over the fence or trying to peer into windows at all hours of the
day, you also would *not* like it.

Well, the same god-damned thing is happening in the digital universe,
and, if you truly understood the nature of it all, you certainly
would not approve.

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#511441 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On 8/5/2015 1:00 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:50:25 -0700, Mahipal wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Why would you even care if 'they' are tracking you? Personally I like
>>> the feeling that someone is watching over me. Don't you?
>>
>
> No, you don't.
>
> If within every brick-and-mortar store that you entered there was a
> mysterious stranger closely following you around the aisles and making
> detailed notes about your activities, you would *not* like it.
>
> If there was an eavesdropper lurking around your home and peeking
> over the fence or trying to peer into windows at all hours of the
> day, you also would *not* like it.

That's different. A mysterious stranger or an eavesdropper is not 
someone you've entered into a contractual arrangement with. You have not 
given permission to an eavesdropper to peek at your doings.

If someone offered a free service to be your assistant, helping arrange 
your schedule, reminding you of things you need to do, making you aware 
of changing circumstances that you may need to respond to, handling some 
menial tasks so that you don't have to, and fending off people who want 
to get in touch with you about business you have no interest in, would 
you be interested in that free service?

Yes, I believe a lot of people would be interested in that, especially 
if it is free.

Now, if in the contract you signed for this free service, suppose it was 
clear that the assistant was going to be with you a good portion of the 
day, aware of the things you're saying, the people you're talking to, 
things that are on your to-do list. Suppose it was clear that you were 
authorizing this agent to go out and buy some things for you and knew 
your credit card details. Would you still be interested in that free 
service?

Yes, I believe a lot of people would still be interested in that, 
especially if it is free.
.
Now, what if this contract also specified that the assistant could 
assemble and analyze the data gathered from you and all the other 
clients the assistant serves? What if this contract specified that the 
analyzed data, appropriately anonymized, would be sold to 3rd parties 
you don't know?

A lot of people say, sure, as long as the data is anonymized, go for it. 
It's a free service and the assistant has to make a living somehow, right?

>
> Well, the same god-damned thing is happening in the digital universe,
> and, if you truly understood the nature of it all, you certainly
> would not approve.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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#511521 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

No Third-Party, in the name of selling me life or health insurance, or
a mobilephone, giving an entire shit that I happened to buy only one
and not theirs particular brands, has any right or priviledge

Learn how to spell "privilege", you blithering fuckwit.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/privilege?s=t

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#511531 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 1:35:14 AM UTC-4, Buck Futter wrote:
> No Third-Party, in the name of selling me life or health insurance, or
> a mobilephone, giving an entire shit that I happened to buy only one
> and not theirs particular brands, has any right or priviledge
> 
> Learn how to spell "privilege", you blithering fuckwit.
> 
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/privilege?s=t

Hey Fuck Butter, learn to attribute writings properly per Usenet
etiquette. As it is, you read as if mumbling to your sorry self.

Fucker Butt... Learn to infer the proper meaning for a trivial typo.

Butter Fuck... You are one pathetic lonely miserable, stuck on English
spellings, Loser, in a physics NG dominated by foreigners. Got Physics?

-- Mahipal 'When I say priviledge, I mean privilege. Squared!'

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#511535 — Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu.

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:05:09 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/4/2015 7:30 PM, Mahipal wrote:
>>
>> Ask this of self: Is your CPU or #smartestphone really off when you
>> turn it off? When you put electrical tape over the camera, or mike, do
>> the(y)TheThem send drones to watch you for your own ...youKnow Safet(y)?
>
>
>Why would you even care if 'they' are tracking you? Personally I like 
>the feeling that someone is watching over me. Don't you?

     I wish I were important enough to warrant being tracked in the
context given. Sadly, I live in the real world where the government
isn't going to spend the money required to track me personally. 

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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