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Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

Started by"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
First post2016-05-29 05:11 +0000
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  Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 05:11 +0000
    Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 01:03 -0700
      Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 10:19 +0000
        I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:53 -0700
          Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:34 +0000
            Re: Mr. O.W.L's terminal can mix and match random FontGlyphs. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 22:43 +0000
              Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 00:37 +0000
                Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-29 18:27 -0700
                Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 15:06 +0000
                Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 16:10 +0000
            Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-31 07:02 -0500
      Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 11:09 +0000
        Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:44 -0700
          Re: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:40 +0000
        Re: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 01:03 +0000
      Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 14:56 +0000
        Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-05-30 16:38 -0400

#581387 — Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 05:11 +0000
SubjectRe: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ?
Message-ID<ghjduf93af.jig4@perch.invalid>
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> 
> What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Nothing.
> What do you know about rxvt-unicode ? Nothing.
>
What do you know about Linux?  Nothing.
https://vid.me/cPXP

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#581397 — Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2016-05-29 01:03 -0700
SubjectScott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29{1.03A.Seattle.2016}>
In reply to#581387
You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
> What do you know about Linux ?

Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.

"DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
[ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]

It has no doubleWide glyphs;
instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.

"OCR A" ( Optical Character Recognition ) is best for coding;
because 1 doesn't look like l, O doesn't look like 0, etc.
"Segoe UI Symbol" has Emojies.  And so on.

"rxvt-unicode" doesn't mix and match fonts;
so you can't specify which glyphs, from which fonts, should be used.

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#581402 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 10:19 +0000
SubjectRe: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<ghjkv003a.fif@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581397
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> What do you know about Linux ?
> 
> Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
> Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
> 
> "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
> [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
> 

I'm using Dejavu Sans Mono Book in a mate-terminal.  I have no trouble
whatsoever displaying or inserting Asian glyphs into any file in vim.
I can either echo the character in or copy/paste it.


> It has no doubleWide glyphs;
> instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
> Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
> 
> "OCR A" ( Optical Character Recognition ) is best for coding;
> because 1 doesn't look like l, O doesn't look like 0, etc.
> "Segoe UI Symbol" has Emojies.  And so on.
> 

In Dejavu Sans Mono Book, 1 doesn't look like l, O doesnt' look
like 0, etc.  Show me any emoji or heiroglyphic or cuneiform
or asian character that you think I am not able to display
on my terminal or use in a file.  Every single one I've tested
from unicode.org has worked. 


> "rxvt-unicode" doesn't mix and match fonts;
> so you can't specify which glyphs, from which fonts, should be used.


You've never used it.  How would you know what it can do?  The swastika
is not part of Dejavu sans mono either, but I can sure set it as my
terminal prompt. 

anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc .bashrc.bak
anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.swastika .bashrc
anon@lowtide:~$ bash
anon@lowtide:~卐 exit
exit
anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.bak .bashrc
anon@lowtide:~$ 

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#581416 — I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2016-05-29 05:53 -0700
SubjectI've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29{5.53A.Seattle.2016}>
In reply to#581402
You ( Mr. Octavian ) showed:
> anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.swastika .bashrc
> anon@lowtide:~$ bash
> anon@lowtide:~卐 exit

I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts",
not replacing _one_ font with another.

You can't show screenshots, I can: 

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

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#581581 — Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 21:34 +0000
SubjectRe: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".
Message-ID<ghjea0a3f.aeu@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581416
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) showed:
>> anon@lowtide:~$ cp .bashrc.swastika .bashrc
>> anon@lowtide:~$ bash
>> anon@lowtide:~卐 exit
> 
> I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts",
> not replacing _one_ font with another.
> 

It would be nice if you knew what the hell you were talking
about.

anon@lowtide:~$ grep PS1 .bashrc.swastika
#    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]'$'\u5350 '
#    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w'$'\u5350 '
    PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1"
anon@lowtide:~$ 


> You can't show screenshots, I can: 
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

https://vid.me/IaM3
http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png

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#581589 — Re: Mr. O.W.L's terminal can mix and match random FontGlyphs.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 22:43 +0000
SubjectRe: Mr. O.W.L's terminal can mix and match random FontGlyphs.
Message-ID<adfhu03.af4g@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581581
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) showed:
> > http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png
> 
> I've been talking about this for a _long_ time;
> all the others, all this time, couldn't demonstrate it;
> you were the first.
> 
> Your terminal _can_ mix and match random FontGlyphs.
> 
> How is it that you know this, and the others don't ?
> 

Others are well aware of it.  They've been trying to tell you, but you
wouldn't listen.  Linux is fantastic.  You should try it.

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#581600 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-30 00:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<ghjdi0ta.jig@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581589
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):
> > > > http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png
> > > Your terminal _can_ mix and match random FontGlyphs.
> > > How is it that you know this, and the others don't ?
> > 
> > Others are well aware of it.
> > They've been trying to tell you, but you wouldn't listen.
> 
> No, I don't think the others knew;
> certainly, they didn't demonstrate it.
> 
> I read all direct replies to my posts,
> no matter who from... I listen.
> 
> > Linux is fantastic.  You should try it.
> 
> Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
> 

Linux distros have *tons* of things that Windows 10 lacks,
not the least of which is a powerful command shell.  Sure,
you can jump through hoops and install some of that stuff
on Windows, but why put yourself through that hassle?


> I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
> for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
> 

A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.

lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.  

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#581608 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-05-29 18:27 -0700
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<D370E507.741C6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#581600
On 5/29/16, 5:37 PM, in article ghjdi0ta.jig@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png
>>>> Your terminal _can_ mix and match random FontGlyphs.
>>>> How is it that you know this, and the others don't ?
>>> 
>>> Others are well aware of it.
>>> They've been trying to tell you, but you wouldn't listen.
>> 
>> No, I don't think the others knew;
>> certainly, they didn't demonstrate it.
>> 
>> I read all direct replies to my posts,
>> no matter who from... I listen.
>> 
>>> Linux is fantastic.  You should try it.
>> 
>> Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
>> 
> 
> Linux distros have *tons* of things that Windows 10 lacks,
> not the least of which is a powerful command shell.  Sure,
> you can jump through hoops and install some of that stuff
> on Windows, but why put yourself through that hassle?

You say the shell is not the least of such things.

Can you show some of the other things? Would love to see how desktop Linux
serves you better than the competition!

>> I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
>> for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
>> 
>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
>>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
> 
> A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
> all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.

Would love to see it. Here is how I configure mine on a competing system:

<https://youtu.be/sdSiYE7lbQI>

Works great for me. I have asked others if you can do this on Linux and they
seem to have no answer... just say programming mice is "idiotic" and leads
to forcing people to single-task in some way they cannot describe. Weird.

For me it allows me to use MORE programs the way I want... choice is good.

  Peter Köhlmann, <http://goo.gl/aBJMis>:
    -----
    | My question is if it is programmable by application: in other
    | words, can you have the next / prev buttons work to do tabs in
    | FireFox and messages in an email program and in the file
    | browser, etc.?
    That is the most idotic way to program a mouse. But I guess the
    typical single-taskers (windows and OSX users) who run only one
    program can get away with such idiotic ideas. Linux users who tend
    to have several applications on the desktop would not appreciate
    if the programming of the different buttons constantly changes
    ----    

> lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
> mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.
> 



-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#581706 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-05-30 15:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<nihkt8$6ch$2@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#581600
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:

>You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):

>> A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
>> all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.
>> 
>> lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
>> mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.  

>Has anyone assigned Ctl, Shift, and AltShift to buttons ?
>Assigned things to gShift LeftClick ?
>What about RightClick, Pause, 'q' ?

>Even if someone has, 
>is it in a single Lua script, like my "g600.TXT" ?

Much of this depends on the company behind the mouse rather than Linux
vs. Windows.  Do they follow a standard protocol for mouse buttons? (Is 
there even a standard protocol that covers a zillion mouse buttons?) Or
do they do something proprietary?  (And esp. if proprietary) Did they
release Linux drivers or code examples applicable to Linux (or Mac FWIW)?
Or did they cheap out and spend money only to develop a Windows driver?

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#581712 — Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-30 16:10 +0000
SubjectRe: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks.
Message-ID<godis93.jgia8@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581600
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. O.W.L ) replied ( to me ):
> > > I rely on the Lua Script I wrote for my Logitech g600 mouse,
> > > for example; Linux has no such thing.  Details:
> > > 
> > >   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.PNG
> > >   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/g600.TXT
> > 
> > A little googling shows that people have successfully programmed
> > all the buttons on that mouse under Linux.
> > 
> > lua is available for linux, but you won't need it to program the
> > mouse.  There already exist utilities for binding xevents.  
> 
> Has anyone assigned Ctl, Shift, and AltShift to buttons ?
> Assigned things to gShift LeftClick ?

Probably.  From what I've read, it looks like everything is
easy enough except for the gShift.  The scancodes generated
are the same whether the gShift is down or not.  Apparently
you'll need to boot into windows and change g600 "profiles"
or whatever, so that different codes are generated, so that
this state can then be detected under linux.  IOW, you can
do it, but preliminaries have to be dealt with under windows
first.

> What about RightClick, Pause, 'q' ?
> 
> Even if someone has, 
> is it in a single Lua script, like my "g600.TXT" ?
> 

I doubt it.  I believe your lua script talks to the LGS software.
Does that matter?

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#581816 — Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-05-31 07:02 -0500
SubjectRe: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts".
Message-ID<f9vqkbpgilp958jmpd4j0ln47sno39bp73@4ax.com>
In reply to#581581
Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:

*plonk*

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#581407 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 11:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<hgjvnbm.mckf93@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581397
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> What do you know about Linux ?
> 
> Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
> Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
> 
> "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
> [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
> 
> It has no doubleWide glyphs;
> instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
> Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
> 

This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:

anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF
𓃠 𓃡 𓃢 𓃣 𓃤 𓃥 𓃦 𓃧 𓃨 𓃩 𓃪 𓃫 𓃬 𓃭 𓃮 𓃯 𓃰 𓃱 𓃲 𓃳 𓃴 𓃵 𓃶 𓃷 𓃸 𓃹 𓃺 𓃻 𓃼 𓃽 𓃾 𓃿 𓄀 𓄁 𓄂 𓄃 𓄄 𓄅 𓄆 𓄇 𓄈 𓄉 𓄊 𓄋 𓄌 𓄍 𓄎 𓄏 𓄐 𓄑 𓄒 𓄓 𓄔 𓄕 𓄖 𓄗 𓄘 𓄙 𓄚 𓄛 𓄜 𓄝 𓄞 𓄟 𓄠 𓄡 𓄢 𓄣 𓄤 𓄥 𓄦 𓄧 𓄨 𓄩 𓄪 𓄫 𓄬 𓄭 𓄮 𓄯 𓄰 𓄱 𓄲 𓄳 𓄴 𓄵 𓄶 𓄷 𓄸 𓄹 𓄺 𓄻 𓄼 𓄽 𓄾 𓄿 𓅀 𓅁 𓅂 𓅃 𓅄 𓅅 𓅆 𓅇 𓅈 𓅉 𓅊 𓅋 𓅌 𓅍 𓅎 𓅏 𓅐 𓅑 𓅒 𓅓 𓅔 𓅕 𓅖 𓅗 𓅘 𓅙 𓅚 𓅛 𓅜 𓅝 𓅞 𓅟 𓅠 𓅡 𓅢 𓅣 𓅤 𓅥 𓅦 𓅧 𓅨 𓅩 𓅪 𓅫 𓅬 𓅭 𓅮 𓅯 𓅰 𓅱 𓅲 𓅳 𓅴 𓅵 𓅶 𓅷 𓅸 𓅹 𓅺 𓅻 𓅼 𓅽 𓅾 𓅿 𓆀 𓆁 𓆂 𓆃 𓆄 𓆅 𓆆 𓆇 𓆈 𓆉 𓆊 𓆋 𓆌 𓆍 𓆎 𓆏 𓆐 𓆑 𓆒 𓆓 𓆔 𓆕 𓆖 𓆗 𓆘 𓆙 𓆚 𓆛 𓆜 𓆝 𓆞 𓆟 𓆠 𓆡 𓆢 𓆣 𓆤 𓆥 𓆦 𓆧 𓆨 𓆩 𓆪 𓆫 𓆬 𓆭 𓆮 𓆯 𓆰 𓆱 𓆲 𓆳 𓆴 𓆵 𓆶 𓆷 𓆸 𓆹 𓆺 𓆻 𓆼 𓆽 𓆾 𓆿 
anon@lowtide:~$ 
anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF
吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同 名 后 吏 吐 向 吒 吓 吔 吕 吖 吗 吘 吙 吚 君 吜 吝 吞 吟 吠 吡 吢 吣 吤 吥 否 吧 吨 吩 吪 含 听 吭 吮 启 吰 吱 吲 吳 吴 吵 吶 吷 吸 吹 吺 吻 吼 吽 吾 吿 呀 呁 呂 呃 呄 呅 呆 呇 呈 呉 告 呋 呌 呍 呎 呏 呐 呑 呒 呓 呔 呕 呖 呗 员 呙 呚 呛 呜 呝 呞 呟 呠 呡 呢 呣 呤 呥 呦 呧 周 呩 呪 呫 呬 呭 呮 呯 呰 呱 呲 味 呴 呵 呶 呷 呸 呹 呺 呻 呼 命 呾 呿 咀 咁 咂 咃 咄 咅 咆 咇 咈 咉 咊 咋 和 咍 咎 咏 咐 咑 咒 咓 咔 咕 咖 咗 咘 咙 咚 咛 咜 咝 咞 咟 咠 咡 咢 咣 咤 咥 咦 咧 咨 咩 咪 咫 咬 咭 咮 咯 咰 咱 咲 咳 咴 咵 咶 咷 咸 咹 咺 咻 咼 咽 咾 咿 哀 品 哂 哃 哄 哅 哆 哇 哈 哉 哊 哋 哌 响 哎 哏 哐 哑 哒 哓 哔 哕 哖 哗 哘 哙 哚 哛 哜 哝 哞 哟 哠 員 哢 哣 哤 哥 哦 哧 哨 哩 哪 哫 哬 哭 哮 哯 哰 哱 哲 哳 哴 哵 哶 哷 哸 哹 哺 哻 哼 哽 哾 哿 
anon@lowtide:~$ 
anon@lowtide:~$ echo;./uniwide 12429 1242F

𒐩       𒐪       𒐫       𒐬       𒐭       𒐮       𒐯       
anon@lowtide:~$ 

Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  Does MS Mincho
have cuneiform glyphs?

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#581415 — Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2016-05-29 05:44 -0700
SubjectOctavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@May.29{5.44A.Seattle.2016}>
In reply to#581407
You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
> Does MS Mincho have cuneiform glyphs?

Of course not, I use "Segoe UI Historic" for that.
I've been talking about mixing and matching fonts;
one font is _not_ enough.

> > "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
> > [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
> > 
> > It has no doubleWide glyphs;
> > instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
> > Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
> 
> This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:
>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF
>   𓃠 𓃡 𓃢 𓃣 𓃤 𓃥 𓃦 𓃧 𓃨 𓃩 𓃪 𓃫 𓃬 𓃭 𓃮 𓃯 𓃰 𓃱 𓃲 𓃳 𓃴
>   
>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF
>   吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同
> 
> Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  

You can't show a screenshot, I can: 

  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
  http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

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#581583 — Re: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-29 21:40 +0000
SubjectRe: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
Message-ID<fhjgua03.agau@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581415
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> Does MS Mincho have cuneiform glyphs?
> 
> Of course not, I use "Segoe UI Historic" for that.
> I've been talking about mixing and matching fonts;
> one font is _not_ enough.
>

I don't even bother with "fonts."  I keep the one terminal font.  I can
call up a unicode glyph by number whenever I want within vim or at the
terminal, and it displays properly.

>> > "DejaVu Sans Mono" has no Asian glyphs, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
>> > [ 'ツ' is katakana, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ is a kaomoji ]
>> > 
>> > It has no doubleWide glyphs;
>> > instead, it has a narrow set of crude, HalfHeight glyphs.
>> > Too crude, "MS Mincho" is _much_ better.
>> 
>> This terminal is using Dejavu sans mono book:
>>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 130E0 131BF
>>   ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>   
>>   anon@lowtide:~$ ./uni 5400 54FF
>>   吀 吁 吂 吃 各 吅 吆 吇 合 吉 吊 吋 同
>> 
>> Those last 7 glyphs look pretty damned wide to me.  
> 
> You can't show a screenshot, I can: 
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG

https://vid.me/IaM3
http://i.imgur.com/1Z1n0SH.png

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#581604 — Re: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really.

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-05-30 01:03 +0000
SubjectRe: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really.
Message-ID<lhkmfjih94.gki4@perch.invalid>
In reply to#581407
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
> Speaking of my "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG", you ( Mr. O.W.L ) wrote:
> > I don't know what that is supposed to be... 
> > maybe a wallpaper for a customized windows desktop.
> > I don't see any command prompt on it anywhere.
> 
> Notice the selected text (in the screenshot); to wit:
> 
>        🚬
>         Δ
>        cr
>        ⁶⁷
>        23
>        __
> 
> Notice how the columns are perfectly aligned.
> 
> To get a glyph, you have to type in hex numbers;
> I select them using my mouse, then paste them elsewhere.
> 

No, I don't have to type in the hex.  I can select and paste.

selected glyphs:
http://i.imgur.com/laNwoDQ.png

pasting into editor:
http://i.imgur.com/SQje8XT.png


> These screenshots also show selected text:
> 
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Diff.PNG
>   http://Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG
> 
> It's a Visual C++ console, really.

OK.

> My editor/debugger: Visual Studio 2015, Community Edition,
>   with Visual Commander, Professional Edition.  Details:
> 
>     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
>     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP
> 

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#581705 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

Frommoroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Date2016-05-30 14:56 +0000
SubjectRe: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<nihkag$6ch$1@pcls7.std.com>
In reply to#581397
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:

>You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>> What do you know about Linux ?

>Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
>Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.

So, instead of constantly whining how Linux cannot mix/match fonts 
(something which apparently only you care about), why not _fix_ Linux
so that it does?  That's the whole idea behind Linux.

Better yet, come up with a custom font mixer tool, one that takes parts
from Font A, part from Font B and part from Font C and produce a fantastic
custom font.

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#581747 — Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-05-30 16:38 -0400
SubjectRe: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed.
Message-ID<nii8lk$uuc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#581705
Michael Moroney wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:
>
>>You ( Mr. Octavian ) asked me:
>>> What do you know about Linux ?
>
>>Much more than you and Scotty Doty, apparently.
>>Scott Doty's façade/lies have been exposed.
>
> So, instead of constantly whining how Linux cannot mix/match fonts 
> (something which apparently only you care about), why not _fix_ Linux
> so that it does?  That's the whole idea behind Linux.
>
> Better yet, come up with a custom font mixer tool, one that takes parts
> from Font A, part from Font B and part from Font C and produce a fantastic
> custom font.

Is that jackwagon saying that you can't mix fonts in LibreOffice?
Certain terminals?  Certain newsreaders?  I mean, those things aren't Linux,
but they can run in Linux, and some of them can mix fonts.  It has nothing
to do with "Linux".

Maybe GNU Unifont would be enough for most purposes?

   http://unifoundry.com/unifont.html

Check out the chart/picture shown there.

-- 
You have had a long-term stimulation relative to business.

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