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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-11 08:13 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-11 06:15 -0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 09:28 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-12 17:00 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 06:13 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-13 15:39 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 11:02 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 09:30 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 12:34 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-13 15:42 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 07:05 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 15:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 09:10 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-15 12:34 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 14:26 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-16 13:41 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 05:19 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-17 05:27 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 10:46 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 12:32 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-17 17:38 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 13:13 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 14:24 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-17 17:39 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 22:52 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-07-17 22:34 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Rockinghorse Winner <rhorse@sonic.net> - 2015-07-18 16:13 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-18 18:42 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 07:36 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 14:25 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 22:53 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-17 19:43 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-17 17:40 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-18 20:53 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:11 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-19 07:06 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-19 21:10 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 17:29 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-19 19:34 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-20 13:57 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-20 17:57 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:08 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 06:45 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-19 21:07 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 17:30 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-20 19:41 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:09 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-21 22:39 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-21 17:57 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:21 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:20 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-22 21:12 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 11:51 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-23 22:10 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 16:57 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-25 19:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 12:51 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 12:58 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-26 21:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:06 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 06:37 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:22 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-22 12:02 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-22 13:11 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-22 17:14 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 11:54 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-22 16:41 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 17:16 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 23:33 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-23 12:11 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-23 18:08 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-23 20:17 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 18:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 12:03 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 00:13 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 00:53 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 11:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 16:58 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 18:13 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-24 16:22 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-24 18:32 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:00 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 00:20 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 06:42 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:03 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:06 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:08 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:01 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 11:03 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:08 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-28 18:24 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:23 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-28 17:25 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-26 03:54 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:09 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-27 04:23 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:09 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-29 03:55 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:23 -0500
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:08 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:18 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:00 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:08 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:29 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:17 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 11:27 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:17 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 19:33 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-02 14:01 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 15:05 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:12 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:19 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-03 03:11 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 09:04 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:42 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-03 18:39 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:01 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-04 15:36 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:55 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:01 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:26 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:03 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:48 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:18 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:43 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:46 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-08 04:57 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 08:32 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 14:58 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 18:12 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:13 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 08:16 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:11 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 00:00 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:19 -0400
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                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 15:42 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-07 15:48 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:26 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:42 -0700
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                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:21 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 13:14 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:58 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:00 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-16 12:24 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:03 -0500
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                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-20 12:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-20 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:50 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 13:58 -0500
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                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:38 -0500
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                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-23 16:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 08:51 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 06:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "NotTroll2Ol5" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-08-21 10:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 11:53 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "NotTroll2Ol5" <notroll2015@charter.net> - 2015-08-21 16:14 -0500
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                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Hägar <hsahm@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 17:35 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 03:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 07:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 05:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-23 05:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:31 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 13:38 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 16:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 11:07 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 12:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 11:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 13:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 13:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-23 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:57 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-22 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:11 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-23 11:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:46 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 04:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 08:21 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 12:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 13:56 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 11:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:29 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 11:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 12:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 11:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-23 13:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 13:22 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:48 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:23 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-16 12:25 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-18 13:27 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-18 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 12:33 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:17 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:47 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:42 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:19 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-19 18:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 21:52 +0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 08:56 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:55 +0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 10:14 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 23:00 +0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 12:12 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 01:28 +0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:07 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:38 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-18 13:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:48 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:20 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-21 09:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:26 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 13:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:39 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-29 11:15 -0600
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-29 13:56 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-29 18:59 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-30 06:43 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:11 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-30 11:38 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:03 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-31 04:14 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:34 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:19 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-31 12:06 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-31 21:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 00:56 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-31 22:22 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-31 22:32 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 01:55 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-01 12:39 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:39 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:38 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 04:10 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. tesla sTinker <staff@truecarpentry.net> - 2015-08-01 18:23 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 11:59 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-24 16:27 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-25 10:32 +0100
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 09:07 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:03 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 15:15 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-26 10:09 +0100
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:11 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:08 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:11 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 06:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:04 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-25 11:31 -0600
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:13 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:45 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:14 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 09:01 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. (BS) tesla sTinker <staff@truecarpentry.net> - 2015-07-28 13:25 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:23 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 06:50 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 05:18 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 08:27 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 06:37 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:18 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:17 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:16 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:02 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:46 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:19 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 15:13 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:10 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-07-26 15:19 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:29 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:14 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:13 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-07-26 22:45 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:13 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-26 23:03 -0600
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 08:22 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 12:27 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-27 18:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 07:28 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 00:39 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-24 04:25 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 11:52 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 14:03 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 11:56 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 12:07 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 16:59 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 07:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:06 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 13:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:25 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 17:01 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:22 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 15:01 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:15 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 19:40 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:25 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:07 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 07:37 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 03:41 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 07:39 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 04:05 -0500
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 05:45 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:36 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 04:07 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:52 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:44 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:15 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 03:49 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:16 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 03:49 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:38 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 03:15 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 14:59 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:43 +1000
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:50 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:50 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:33 +1000
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:41 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:50 +1000
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:47 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 14:45 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:44 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 15:30 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:26 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 04:19 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:19 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:43 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:15 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 09:43 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:48 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 14:45 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:46 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 15:30 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:22 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 04:18 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:53 +1000
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 04:21 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 07:52 +1000
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 04:36 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:51 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 04:19 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:44 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 18:15 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 09:44 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:49 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 14:46 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 11:47 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-15 15:31 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:20 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:03 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 04:17 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:54 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:15 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 04:05 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-26 16:13 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:16 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-28 18:22 -0700
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 00:22 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 03:53 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:27 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:09 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:17 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 10:51 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 00:05 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 14:08 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 00:34 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 14:45 +1000
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 01:04 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 06:31 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-07-30 09:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 03:42 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:39 +1000
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:17 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:41 +1000
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:37 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-29 19:38 -0700
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:18 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:21 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 12:30 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:17 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-28 18:22 -0700
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:28 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 06:02 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 07:30 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:10 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 07:36 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-17 17:36 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-17 17:35 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 07:45 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-18 07:19 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-18 10:48 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 12:05 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-18 18:51 +0200
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 07:37 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:22 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:21 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 14:08 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 07:43 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:20 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 14:43 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 17:31 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 06:51 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-20 13:59 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-20 19:31 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-20 17:12 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:10 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-20 17:56 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-20 17:55 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:11 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-21 12:37 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:23 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-22 12:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 11:59 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-20 17:56 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:14 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-21 05:25 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 06:43 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:15 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-21 22:24 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-21 17:44 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-21 20:59 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-22 09:41 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:23 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-22 20:46 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 12:00 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-23 22:01 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 17:00 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-25 19:32 +0000
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:23 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-26 21:00 +0000
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-26 18:01 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:18 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-21 18:52 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 06:45 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 17:02 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-22 09:26 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 17:01 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-24 16:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:06 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 10:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:27 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-25 06:00 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:07 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-25 12:47 +0100
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-25 06:12 -0700
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-22 06:39 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 02:45 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 06:53 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:16 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-19 07:01 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 17:32 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-19 19:23 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 06:55 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-20 14:00 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:14 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-07-19 07:58 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 14:52 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 17:41 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 07:04 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-20 14:00 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-20 17:57 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-20 17:54 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:16 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-21 18:49 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-22 09:19 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:28 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-22 11:07 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-22 14:19 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 12:01 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-22 21:04 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 12:03 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-23 22:06 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-23 17:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 17:11 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 17:04 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 07:43 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:09 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 13:59 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:28 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 12:32 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:20 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 06:12 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 12:06 -0500
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:28 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 15:23 -0500
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 05:07 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:43 -0500
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 07:25 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 10:01 -0500
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 11:30 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:24 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 18:27 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 05:26 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:40 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:24 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 18:30 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 19:38 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-25 19:39 +0000
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:29 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-26 21:02 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Amanda Bush <jacke@nobody.com> - 2015-07-24 15:58 +0000
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 12:31 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 00:37 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 22:37 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 02:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-25 09:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-25 21:02 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-26 06:24 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 13:11 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-26 17:56 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-26 16:51 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-07-26 22:48 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-24 23:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 02:38 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-25 09:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-07-26 22:46 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-20 19:13 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 23:22 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-19 21:05 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 17:42 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-20 19:37 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:16 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-21 22:34 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-21 18:01 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:29 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-22 21:08 +0000
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 17:05 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-25 19:46 +0000
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:30 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-26 21:06 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:21 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-28 17:27 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-11 11:46 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 09:32 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-12 16:58 -0700
          Re: "Allahu Akbar" ("I'm better than you"). benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:03 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-13 15:46 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-13 18:27 -0800
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-15 12:34 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-15 19:10 -0800
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-16 04:26 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-16 04:10 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-16 07:47 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-16 13:43 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-17 05:33 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-16 13:42 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-17 05:34 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-17 17:41 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-18 04:06 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-18 20:50 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-19 05:44 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-19 12:52 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-19 06:36 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-20 05:16 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-20 05:15 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Rockinghorse Winner <rhorse@sonic.net> - 2015-07-18 16:30 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Holy Roller <holyroller@holy.net> - 2015-07-18 19:39 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-18 18:43 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-19 05:45 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:27 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-20 05:18 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-20 14:04 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-21 05:29 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:19 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-22 05:19 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:31 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-23 05:17 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-23 12:04 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-24 16:20 -0400
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 17:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-25 05:37 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:10 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-25 17:29 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-26 03:31 -0400
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-26 13:31 -0500
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-27 03:57 -0400
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-28 16:22 -0500
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-29 03:42 -0400
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-29 12:08 -0500
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-30 03:55 -0400
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-30 07:31 -0500
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 03:52 -0400
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:35 -0500
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:13 -0400
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:48 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 08:49 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:37 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:00 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 14:57 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:30 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:48 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 04:49 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:36 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:07 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:10 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:22 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-20 05:18 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-20 14:05 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-21 05:30 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:19 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-22 05:20 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:32 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-23 05:18 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-22 06:35 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-23 05:20 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 06:13 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-24 16:24 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-24 17:18 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-25 05:38 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-25 12:11 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-25 07:46 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-18 07:55 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 08:24 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 14:54 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-19 17:43 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-20 05:19 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-20 14:06 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-21 05:31 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-21 12:20 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-22 05:22 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-22 10:32 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-23 05:22 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-16 13:42 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:51 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-13 15:43 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 08:55 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-15 05:16 -0500
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#511932

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
Message-ID<pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com>
In reply to#511855
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>
>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>
>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>
>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>
>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>
>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?

Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.

>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>involved made it invalid?
>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?

I would say the answer is one (1).
>
>>
>>>> nor how it is found in the bible. 
>>
>>>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES
>>>NOT MATTER!
>>
>>Not to you that want nothing to do with God.
>
>Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is
>concerned.  How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology?
>After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible.

the dukester, American-American

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#512065

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
Message-ID<hv4esalk46telejbmg7952m6mmnc6is65l@4ax.com>
In reply to#511932
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:19:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>>
>>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>
>>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>
>>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>
>>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>
>>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>
>Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.

So what?  It isn't the first time.

And I am in good company.  Many people were in a minority when they
first took a position, and were later shown to be correct.  Sometimes
a minority of one.


>
>>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>involved made it invalid?
>>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>
>I would say the answer is one (1).

Amusing.  That would make every superstition valid wouldn't it?

Why do you keep mentioning my position is in a minority and most
people disagree with me when it only takes one to "validate"
something?


>>
>>>
>>>>> nor how it is found in the bible. 
>>>
>>>>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES
>>>>NOT MATTER!
>>>
>>>Not to you that want nothing to do with God.
>>
>>Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is
>>concerned.  How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology?
>>After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible.
>

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Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

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#512111

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
Message-ID<6mpesatddc86osfghkug9om4tmqilj6f0v@4ax.com>
In reply to#512065
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:54:24 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:19:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>>
>>>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>>
>>>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>>
>>>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>>
>>Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.
>
>So what?  It isn't the first time.

Nor the last.

>And I am in good company.  Many people were in a minority when they
>first took a position, and were later shown to be correct.  Sometimes
>a minority of one.

And I rest my case on my correct position.


>>>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>>involved made it invalid?
>>>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>>
>>I would say the answer is one (1).

Nope, but as you said, all it takes is one sometimes.

>Amusing.  That would make every superstition valid wouldn't it?

>Why do you keep mentioning my position is in a minority and most
>people disagree with me when it only takes one to "validate"
>something?

All depends on what you're trying to validate.

>>>>>> nor how it is found in the bible. 
>>>>
>>>>>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES
>>>>>NOT MATTER!
>>>>
>>>>Not to you that want nothing to do with God.
>>>
>>>Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is
>>>concerned.  How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology?
>>>After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible.

I have the same validity of evidence for the cross as you have or the American
Revolution. - artifacts, documents, paintings, etc.  But no live witnesses,
videos, tv cameras, etc.


the dukester, American-American

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#512360

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
Message-ID<6nqgsa54qtjl59k7fb8o1qc26e71dm9enf@4ax.com>
In reply to#512111
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:46:50 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<6mpesatddc86osfghkug9om4tmqilj6f0v@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:54:24 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:19:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>>>
>>>>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>>>
>>>>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>>>
>>>Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.
>>
>>So what?  It isn't the first time.
>
>Nor the last.

Nope.  I don't expect it to be.

>
>>And I am in good company.  Many people were in a minority when they
>>first took a position, and were later shown to be correct.  Sometimes
>>a minority of one.
>
>And I rest my case on my correct position.

Nope.  You are still wrong.  I would point out you were the one who
tried to use numbers to support your unsupportable position.

>
>
>>>>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>>>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>>>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>>>involved made it invalid?
>>>>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>>>
>>>I would say the answer is one (1).
>
>Nope, but as you said, all it takes is one sometimes.

Then why did you introduce numbers as if those alone proved you
assertion to be correct?

>
>>Amusing.  That would make every superstition valid wouldn't it?
>
>>Why do you keep mentioning my position is in a minority and most
>>people disagree with me when it only takes one to "validate"
>>something?
>
>All depends on what you're trying to validate.

No, it doesn't.

>
>>>>>>> nor how it is found in the bible. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES
>>>>>>NOT MATTER!
>>>>>
>>>>>Not to you that want nothing to do with God.
>>>>
>>>>Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is
>>>>concerned.  How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology?
>>>>After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible.
>
>I have the same validity of evidence for the cross as you have or the American
>Revolution. - artifacts, documents, paintings, etc.  But no live witnesses,
>videos, tv cameras, etc.
>
Covered elsewhere.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#512754

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
Message-ID<6hdksa9ei1456majqjlithmd5l0iuu88uu@4ax.com>
In reply to#512360
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:15:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:46:50 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><6mpesatddc86osfghkug9om4tmqilj6f0v@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:54:24 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:19:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>>>>
>>>>>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>>>>
>>>>Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.
>>>
>>>So what?  It isn't the first time.
>>
>>Nor the last.
>
>Nope.  I don't expect it to be.

Then we both agree you are in the minority.

>>>And I am in good company.  Many people were in a minority when they
>>>first took a position, and were later shown to be correct.  Sometimes
>>>a minority of one.
>>
>>And I rest my case on my correct position.
>
>Nope.  You are still wrong.  I would point out you were the one who
>tried to use numbers to support your unsupportable position.

Go ahead.

>>>>>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>>>>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>>>>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>>>>involved made it invalid?
>>>>>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>>>>
>>>>I would say the answer is one (1).
>>
>>Nope, but as you said, all it takes is one sometimes.
>
>Then why did you introduce numbers as if those alone proved you
>assertion to be correct?

To give you reason to accept that you are thus wrong.

>>>Amusing.  That would make every superstition valid wouldn't it?
>>
>>>Why do you keep mentioning my position is in a minority and most
>>>people disagree with me when it only takes one to "validate"
>>>something?
>>
>>All depends on what you're trying to validate.
>
>No, it doesn't.

Yep.

>>>>>>>> nor how it is found in the bible. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES
>>>>>>>NOT MATTER!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not to you that want nothing to do with God.
>>>>>
>>>>>Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is
>>>>>concerned.  How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology?
>>>>>After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible.
>>
>>I have the same validity of evidence for the cross as you have or the American
>>Revolution. - artifacts, documents, paintings, etc.  But no live witnesses,
>>videos, tv cameras, etc.
>>
>Covered elsewhere.

Nope.

the dukester, American-American

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#512925

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
Message-ID<3dslsa98na103mgalbm8rekmnsjl4qe4mk@4ax.com>
In reply to#512754
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:53:11 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<6hdksa9ei1456majqjlithmd5l0iuu88uu@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:15:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:46:50 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><6mpesatddc86osfghkug9om4tmqilj6f0v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:54:24 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:19:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>>>>>
>>>>>Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.
>>>>
>>>>So what?  It isn't the first time.
>>>
>>>Nor the last.
>>
>>Nope.  I don't expect it to be.
>
>Then we both agree you are in the minority.

Yep.  So what?  According to you that must make me correct.

>
>>>>And I am in good company.  Many people were in a minority when they
>>>>first took a position, and were later shown to be correct.  Sometimes
>>>>a minority of one.
>>>
>>>And I rest my case on my correct position.
>>
>>Nope.  You are still wrong.  I would point out you were the one who
>>tried to use numbers to support your unsupportable position.
>
>Go ahead.

I just did, you moron.


>
>>>>>>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>>>>>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>>>>>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>>>>>involved made it invalid?
>>>>>>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>>>>>
>>>>>I would say the answer is one (1).
>>>
>>>Nope, but as you said, all it takes is one sometimes.
>>
>>Then why did you introduce numbers as if those alone proved you
>>assertion to be correct?
>
>To give you reason to accept that you are thus wrong.

So now numbers prove something?  It appears you want it both ways.

>
>>>>Amusing.  That would make every superstition valid wouldn't it?
>>>
>>>>Why do you keep mentioning my position is in a minority and most
>>>>people disagree with me when it only takes one to "validate"
>>>>something?
>>>
>>>All depends on what you're trying to validate.
>>
>>No, it doesn't.
>
>Yep.

Of course it does.

>
>>>>>>>>> nor how it is found in the bible. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES
>>>>>>>>NOT MATTER!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not to you that want nothing to do with God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is
>>>>>>concerned.  How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology?
>>>>>>After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible.
>>>
>>>I have the same validity of evidence for the cross as you have or the American
>>>Revolution. - artifacts, documents, paintings, etc.  But no live witnesses,
>>>videos, tv cameras, etc.
>>>
>>Covered elsewhere.
>
>Nope.
>

Of course it was, but your denial doesn't allow you to admit it for
some reason.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#514422

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-16 14:18 -0500
Message-ID<edo1tadlsvur7ooa4gfac8as58l71ld6ui@4ax.com>
In reply to#512925
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:15:05 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:53:11 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><6hdksa9ei1456majqjlithmd5l0iuu88uu@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:15:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:46:50 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><6mpesatddc86osfghkug9om4tmqilj6f0v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:54:24 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:19:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.
>>>>>
>>>>>So what?  It isn't the first time.
>>>>
>>>>Nor the last.
>>>
>>>Nope.  I don't expect it to be.
>>
>>Then we both agree you are in the minority.
>
>Yep.  So what?  According to you that must make me correct.

Nope, that the huge majority, seeing a lot more than you do, sees you in error.

>>>>>>>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>>>>>>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>>>>>>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>>>>>>involved made it invalid?
>>>>>>>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would say the answer is one (1).
>>>>
>>>>Nope, but as you said, all it takes is one sometimes.
>>>
>>>Then why did you introduce numbers as if those alone proved you
>>>assertion to be correct?
>>
>>To give you reason to accept that you are thus wrong.
>
>So now numbers prove something?  It appears you want it both ways.

Proves you are in the minority in your assessments.


the dukester, American-American

*****
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Pope Paul VI
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#514452

FromTom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net>
Date2015-08-16 15:02 -0500
Message-ID<mqqq6c$her$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#514422
On 8/16/2015 2:18 PM, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 03:15:05 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:53:11 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id
>> <6hdksa9ei1456majqjlithmd5l0iuu88uu@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:15:08 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:46:50 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <6mpesatddc86osfghkug9om4tmqilj6f0v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:54:24 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:19:05 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <pthcsa1qp81s6n2i2ccjpekv9k2loqptda@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>> <b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>> <s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>>>>>> indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what?  It isn't the first time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor the last.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.  I don't expect it to be.
>>>
>>> Then we both agree you are in the minority.
>>
>> Yep.  So what?  According to you that must make me correct.
>
> Nope, that the huge majority, seeing a lot more than you do, sees you in error.
>
>>>>>>>> As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>>>>>>> does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>>>>>>> only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>>>>>>> involved made it invalid?
>>>>>>>> Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would say the answer is one (1).
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, but as you said, all it takes is one sometimes.
>>>>
>>>> Then why did you introduce numbers as if those alone proved you
>>>> assertion to be correct?
>>>
>>> To give you reason to accept that you are thus wrong.
>>
>> So now numbers prove something?  It appears you want it both ways.
>
> Proves you are in the minority in your assessments.
>
>
> the dukester, American-American
>
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****
>
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#514590

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 05:43 -0400
Message-ID<osa3tahek108511aful0kpau8mi8hqhol0@4ax.com>
In reply to#514422
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:18:24 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<edo1tadlsvur7ooa4gfac8as58l71ld6ui@4ax.com> wrote:


>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.  
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>>>>>>>>>>>>indirectly, with your bible?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Which means what?  Numbers alone prove something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So what?  It isn't the first time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nor the last.
>>>>
>>>>Nope.  I don't expect it to be.
>>>
>>>Then we both agree you are in the minority.
>>
>>Yep.  So what?  According to you that must make me correct.
>
>Nope, that the huge majority, seeing a lot more than you do, sees you in error.

Now you think numbers alone make anything correct?  How many examples
of such 'majority rules' in the past that turned out to be utter
balderdash do you want?

I have given you a number of such examples in prior conversations.
With you there is nothing new under the sun - you just trot out the
same lame excuses over and over.

With you either one can prove something valid or a huge majority can
prove something valid - depending on which you need at the particular
time in question.

>
>>>>>>>>As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered -
>>>>>>>>does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and
>>>>>>>>only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers
>>>>>>>>involved made it invalid?
>>>>>>>>Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would say the answer is one (1).
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope, but as you said, all it takes is one sometimes.
>>>>
>>>>Then why did you introduce numbers as if those alone proved you
>>>>assertion to be correct?
>>>
>>>To give you reason to accept that you are thus wrong.
>>
>>So now numbers prove something?  It appears you want it both ways.
>
>Proves you are in the minority in your assessments.

According to your prior comments one person can be correct and
everyone else incorrect.  Isn't that true?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#511529

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
Message-ID<55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511324
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> alt.atheism with message-id
> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> >>> etc.
> >>
> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> >
> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> >
> 
> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> connected to it?
> 
> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> 
> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?


“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
extinct at this day.” 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus

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#511684

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
Message-ID<glv7sa1seaqn0ko9hfhvjhsgmj08d689ic@4ax.com>
In reply to#511529
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id
>> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>> >>> etc.
>> >>
>> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>> >
>> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>> >
>> 
>> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>> connected to it?
>> 
>> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>> 
>> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>
>
>“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>extinct at this day.” 
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus

It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
verification from any other sources supporting him.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#511696

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
Message-ID<55C441F1.4E46@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511684
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> >> alt.atheism with message-id
> >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> >> >>> etc.
> >> >>
> >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> >> >
> >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> >> >
> >>
> >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> >> connected to it?
> >>
> >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> >>
> >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> >
> >
> >“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
> >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> >extinct at this day.”
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> 
> It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> verification from any other sources supporting him.
> 


I'm shocked.

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#511699

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
Message-ID<55C44B14.3BF8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511696
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Attila < wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> > >> alt.atheism with message-id
> > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> > >> >>> etc.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> > >> >
> > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> > >> connected to it?
> > >>
> > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> > >>
> > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> > >
> > >
> > >“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
> > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> > >extinct at this day.”
> > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> >
> > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> > verification from any other sources supporting him.
> >
> 
> I'm shocked.

http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg

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#511701

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
Message-ID<55C44CD8.3DA5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511699
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Attila < wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Attila < wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> > > >> alt.atheism with message-id
> > > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> > > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> > > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> > > >> >>> etc.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> > > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> > > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> > > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> > > >> connected to it?
> > > >>
> > > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> > > >>
> > > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> > > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
> > > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> > > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> > > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> > > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> > > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> > > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> > > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> > > >extinct at this day.”
> > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> > >
> > > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> > > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> > > verification from any other sources supporting him.
> > >
> >
> > I'm shocked.
> 
> http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg



how about this guy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ



“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and
inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their
abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the
name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a
most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke
out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome,
where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find
their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made
of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense
multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as
of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their
deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and
perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and
burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.”


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ

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#511705

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
Message-ID<55C4541A.2701@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511701
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Attila < wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Attila < wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> > > > >> alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> > > > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> > > > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> > > > >> >>> etc.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> > > > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> > > > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> > > > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> > > > >> connected to it?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> > > > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
> > > > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> > > > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> > > > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> > > > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> > > > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> > > > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> > > > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> > > > >extinct at this day.”
> > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> > > >
> > > > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> > > > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> > > > verification from any other sources supporting him.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm shocked.
> >
> > http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg
> 
> how about this guy?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
> 
> “Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and
> inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their
> abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the
> name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
> Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a
> most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke
> out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome,
> where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find
> their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made
> of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense
> multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as
> of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their
> deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and
> perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and
> burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.”
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

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#511739

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
Message-ID<9ff9sa50hgv2sudnjfrulmq4to4vmkh21i@4ax.com>
In reply to#511705
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:45:46 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > The Starmaker wrote:


and as usual we get starfart replying to himself replying to himself
replying to himself


<snip the crap noone reads anyway>

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#511710

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
Message-ID<vkt8sa5nu09e1k873pubm6n51o0hk238k6@4ax.com>
In reply to#511701
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:14:48 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<55C44CD8.3DA5@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > Attila < wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
>> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> > > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Attila < wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>> > > >> alt.atheism with message-id
>> > > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
>> > > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
>> > > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
>> > > >> >>> etc.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
>> > > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
>> > > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
>> > > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
>> > > >> connected to it?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>> > > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
>> > > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
>> > > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
>> > > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
>> > > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
>> > > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
>> > > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
>> > > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
>> > > >extinct at this day.”
>> > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
>> > >
>> > > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
>> > > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
>> > > verification from any other sources supporting him.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I'm shocked.
>> 
>> http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg
>
>
>
>how about this guy?
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
>
>
>
>“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and
>inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their
>abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the
>name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
>Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a
>most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke
>out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome,
>where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find
>their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made
>of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense
>multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as
>of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their
>deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and
>perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and
>burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.”
>
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ

How about him?  It appears he was born after the events supposedly
occurred and the major players were dead therefore the could not have
seen anything himself but must have worked from third party accounts.
Were these verified accounts?  What were they and how were they
verified?

This only raises the same questions and hardly qualifies as
verification itself does it?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#511824

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
Message-ID<55C53D19.74FB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511701
Kevrob wrote:
> 
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:14:51 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Attila < wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Attila < wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> > > > > >> alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> > > > > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> > > > > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> > > > > >> >>> etc.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> > > > > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> > > > > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> > > > > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> > > > > >> connected to it?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> > > > > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works--a teacher of such
> > > > > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> > > > > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> > > > > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> > > > > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> > > > > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> > > > > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> > > > > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> > > > > >extinct at this day."
> > > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> > > > >
> > > > > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> > > > > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> > > > > verification from any other sources supporting him.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm shocked.
> > >
> > > http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > how about this guy?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
> >
> >
> >
> > "Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and
> > inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their
> > abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the
> > name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
> > Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a
> > most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke
> > out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome,
> > where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find
> > their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made
> > of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense
> > multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as
> > of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their
> > deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and
> > perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and
> > burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired."
> >
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
> 
> GoTo the 1st para @
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus
> 
> Born circa 56 CE  Died 117 CE
> 
> So, he was on the scene 23 years after the traditional death date for
> the Nazarene, 33 CE.  He wasn't a contemporary of Jesus.
> 
> Thank you for playing.
> 
> Kevin R


23 years???

The story of Jesus Christ...the new testament wasn't even writen until 50 years after Jesus Christ died.

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#511850

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
Message-ID<55C591CD.41E8@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511824
Kevrob wrote:
> 
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 7:19:45 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Kevrob wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:14:51 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Attila < wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > > > > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Attila < wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> > > > > > > >> alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > > > > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> > > > > > > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> > > > > > > >> >>> etc.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> > > > > > > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> > > > > > > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> > > > > > > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> > > > > > > >> connected to it?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >"Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> > > > > > > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works--a teacher of such
> > > > > > > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> > > > > > > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> > > > > > > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> > > > > > > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> > > > > > > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> > > > > > > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> > > > > > > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> > > > > > > >extinct at this day."
> > > > > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> > > > > > > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> > > > > > > verification from any other sources supporting him.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm shocked.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > how about this guy?
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and
> > > > inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their
> > > > abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the
> > > > name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
> > > > Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a
> > > > most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke
> > > > out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome,
> > > > where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find
> > > > their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made
> > > > of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense
> > > > multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as
> > > > of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their
> > > > deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and
> > > > perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and
> > > > burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
> > >
> > > GoTo the 1st para @
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus
> > >
> > > Born circa 56 CE  Died 117 CE
> > >
> > > So, he was on the scene 23 years after the traditional death date for
> > > the Nazarene, 33 CE.  He wasn't a contemporary of Jesus.
> > >
> > > Thank you for playing.
> > >
> > > Kevin R
> >
> >
> > 23 years???
> >
> > The story of Jesus Christ...the new testament wasn't even writen until 50 years after Jesus Christ died.
> 
> So what.  We were talking about non-biblical verification that someone
> called "Jesus" or something close to it had lived and either founded a
> religion or had been the example for a religion founded by his followers.
> Tacitus wasn't alive when JC was, so he would only have heard about any
> Jewish Messiah after the fellow was said to have died.  He isn't, as the
> historians say, a primary source.  That's not to say he didn't encounter
> Christians in his lifetime.
> 
> Kevin R

Born circa 56 CE  Died 117 CE



Doesn't CE mean Before Christ?

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#511851

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
Message-ID<55C592EB.2D7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#511850
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Kevrob wrote:
> >
> > On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 7:19:45 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Kevrob wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 2:14:51 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Attila < wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> > > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > > > > > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Attila < wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> > > > > > > > >> alt.atheism with message-id
> > > > > > > > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> > > > > > > > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> > > > > > > > >> >>> etc.
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> > > > > > > > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> > > > > > > > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> > > > > > > > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> > > > > > > > >> connected to it?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >"Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> > > > > > > > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works--a teacher of such
> > > > > > > > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> > > > > > > > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> > > > > > > > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> > > > > > > > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> > > > > > > > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> > > > > > > > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> > > > > > > > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> > > > > > > > >extinct at this day."
> > > > > > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> > > > > > > > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> > > > > > > > verification from any other sources supporting him.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm shocked.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > how about this guy?
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and
> > > > > inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their
> > > > > abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the
> > > > > name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
> > > > > Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a
> > > > > most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke
> > > > > out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome,
> > > > > where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find
> > > > > their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made
> > > > > of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense
> > > > > multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as
> > > > > of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their
> > > > > deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and
> > > > > perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and
> > > > > burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus#Tacitus_on_Christ
> > > >
> > > > GoTo the 1st para @
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus
> > > >
> > > > Born circa 56 CE  Died 117 CE
> > > >
> > > > So, he was on the scene 23 years after the traditional death date for
> > > > the Nazarene, 33 CE.  He wasn't a contemporary of Jesus.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for playing.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin R
> > >
> > >
> > > 23 years???
> > >
> > > The story of Jesus Christ...the new testament wasn't even writen until 50 years after Jesus Christ died.
> >
> > So what.  We were talking about non-biblical verification that someone
> > called "Jesus" or something close to it had lived and either founded a
> > religion or had been the example for a religion founded by his followers.
> > Tacitus wasn't alive when JC was, so he would only have heard about any
> > Jewish Messiah after the fellow was said to have died.  He isn't, as the
> > historians say, a primary source.  That's not to say he didn't encounter
> > Christians in his lifetime.
> >
> > Kevin R
> 
> Born circa 56 CE  Died 117 CE
> 
> Doesn't CE mean Before Christ?


You wrote: "Tacitus wasn't alive when JC was..."

The Common Era, also known as the Christian Era,[1][2] is the name of
the stretch of time from somewhere around the alleged birth of Jesus
Christ.

Now when was Jesus born? Maybe 86 CE???

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