Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > alt.atheism > #1954650

Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Message-ID <55C44B14.3BF8@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.atheism, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
References (8 earlier) <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> <f1j3sad4c4k1ia3spt0i27pf477qopqmt1@4ax.com> <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> <glv7sa1seaqn0ko9hfhvjhsgmj08d689ic@4ax.com> <55C441F1.4E46@ix.netcom.com>

Cross-posted to 4 groups.

Show all headers | View raw

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Attila < wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 01:10:45 -0700, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> > <55C31685.54A6@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Attila < wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
> > >> alt.atheism with message-id
> > >> <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote:
> > >> >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred.  Same difference.  No eye
> > >> >>> witnesses to testify.  Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts,
> > >> >>> etc.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels.
> > >> >
> > >> >What 3rd party verification.  I have the same types of verification for Jesus
> > >> >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or
> > >> indirectly, with your bible?  Direct verified accounts or 'paintings'
> > >> by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization
> > >> connected to it?
> > >>
> > >> What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources?
> > >>
> > >> Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means?
> > >
> > >
> > >“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> > >call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such
> > >men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of
> > >the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when
> > >Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned
> > >him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him,
> > >for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine
> > >prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things
> > >concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not
> > >extinct at this day.”
> > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
> >
> > It is the opinion of many scholars his writings were altered centuries
> > ago to fit the necessary pattern.  There is no independent
> > verification from any other sources supporting him.
> >
> 
> I'm shocked.

http://alivecampus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/shocked_face.jpg

Back to alt.atheism | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:00 -0400
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:08 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:29 -0400
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:17 -0600
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 11:27 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-02 08:51 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 12:40 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 18:23 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:17 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-02 14:01 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 15:05 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-08-02 15:32 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-08-02 14:02 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:19 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-03 03:11 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 09:04 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:42 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-03 18:39 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:01 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-04 15:36 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:55 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-06 04:57 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:50 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-08 06:37 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:46 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-08 04:57 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 08:32 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 14:58 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 18:12 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:13 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 08:16 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:11 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 14:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 00:00 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 12:22 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 15:42 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-07 15:48 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:26 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:42 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:58 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 12:59 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:21 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 13:14 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-10 06:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-10 04:48 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:56 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:48 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:23 -0400

csiph-web