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Re: Where is the center of the universe?

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Date 2015-11-21 23:27 -0800
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Where is the center of the universe?
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benj wrote:
> 
> On 11/21/2015 08:16 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 3:58:57 PM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> >> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 3:27:29 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 3:01:18 PM UTC-8, Kym Horsell wrote:
> >>>> pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> >>>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:01:23 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 11:18:19 AM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Numbers are infinite.
> >>>>>>> Yes, but infinity is not a number...
> >>>>>> Are you talking about infinity in numbers?
> >>>>> Yes.
> >>>>>> This is also about how sometimes the
> >>>>>> integers are unsigned and like odometer
> >>>>>> or clock arithmetic and how, for example
> >>>>>> in physics, there is "infinity equals
> >>>>>> negative one"
> >>>>> There is also the "infinity equals -1/12" paradox, (which therefore proves
> >>>> that -1 equals -1/12) but each is flawed because you cannot add an infinite
> >>>> series and get an actual number!
> >>>>
> >>>> Urk?
> >>>> 1+1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16+... == 2?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Some infinite series can add to an actual number.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, when the sums converge, but not when they diverge.
> >>
> >>
> >> In a sense, that's about
> >>
> >> 1 + 1 + 1 + ... = -1
> >>    (telescoping, wheel-odometric, to zero)
> >> 1 + 2 + 3 + ... = -1/12
> >>    (pyramidic, wheel-odometric, revolute, to 1/3*4*5, ... factorial)
> >
> > Like I said, since 1 + 1 + 1... equals infinity equals -1, and
> > 1 + 2 + 3... equals infinity equals -1/12...
> > then -1 equals -1/12.
> >
> > Logically and mathematically, this makes no sense whatsoever, and is clearly not true, so what is the problem?
> >
> > Well, infinity is not a number, so its use in solving equations is problematic.
> >
> So why are you clowns trying to use mathematical fantasy as some kind of
> proof of reality?  Nuts.
> 


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                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 20:23 -0600
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                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-02 21:31 -0800
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                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 14:50 -0600
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 16:43 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-03 17:12 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 17:35 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 19:36 -0600
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 22:40 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 23:10 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 07:45 -0600
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-04 13:13 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-04 21:31 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-04 23:17 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 00:04 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-12-05 17:28 -0800
                Re: Where is the center of the universe? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-05 23:14 -0800
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