Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 01:26:49 -0600 Message-ID: <56516E46.7BFA@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 23:27:02 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Where is the center of the universe? References: <54D7D8B6.20A9@ix.netcom.com> <565021C7.2111@ix.netcom.com> <75abe5ae-cb5e-43ef-8f75-08f858d65b17@googlegroups.com> <13d9d2ea-de79-4473-baf0-3f41ca65ca28@googlegroups.com> <0f99ce39-efd3-4f96-8cca-ecdfdce46c90@googlegroups.com> <8278f9e9-ca24-47a5-bbc7-350751652fd4@googlegroups.com> <36c5b4e5-590a-4991-b56b-9ba141b16c2a@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 54 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 45.49.183.72 X-Trace: sv3-dxiid458jw3SmNXAJhMcK5vV9FuYGT74IhmA+QWHa9I41ZqU2MrEnQJ4A5CIOwjoDJLvLcsxsH3sGaA!xgg9USsPZskcv6W17U9Fbnks5+cepHp2IphgRLDwTTYajz4THr+7/tLxhwleJzweNtiDQnv0Oc4D!zkJp4Mer X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3910 X-Received-Bytes: 4022 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3562816219 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:534519 benj wrote: > > On 11/21/2015 08:16 PM, pnalsing@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 3:58:57 PM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > >> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 3:27:29 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 3:01:18 PM UTC-8, Kym Horsell wrote: > >>>> pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > >>>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:01:23 PM UTC-8, pnal...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 11:18:19 AM UTC-8, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > >>>>>>>> Numbers are infinite. > >>>>>>> Yes, but infinity is not a number... > >>>>>> Are you talking about infinity in numbers? > >>>>> Yes. > >>>>>> This is also about how sometimes the > >>>>>> integers are unsigned and like odometer > >>>>>> or clock arithmetic and how, for example > >>>>>> in physics, there is "infinity equals > >>>>>> negative one" > >>>>> There is also the "infinity equals -1/12" paradox, (which therefore proves > >>>> that -1 equals -1/12) but each is flawed because you cannot add an infinite > >>>> series and get an actual number! > >>>> > >>>> Urk? > >>>> 1+1/2+1/4+1/8+1/16+... == 2? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Some infinite series can add to an actual number. > >>> > >>> Of course, when the sums converge, but not when they diverge. > >> > >> > >> In a sense, that's about > >> > >> 1 + 1 + 1 + ... = -1 > >> (telescoping, wheel-odometric, to zero) > >> 1 + 2 + 3 + ... = -1/12 > >> (pyramidic, wheel-odometric, revolute, to 1/3*4*5, ... factorial) > > > > Like I said, since 1 + 1 + 1... equals infinity equals -1, and > > 1 + 2 + 3... equals infinity equals -1/12... > > then -1 equals -1/12. > > > > Logically and mathematically, this makes no sense whatsoever, and is clearly not true, so what is the problem? > > > > Well, infinity is not a number, so its use in solving equations is problematic. > > > So why are you clowns trying to use mathematical fantasy as some kind of > proof of reality? Nuts. > If you're wearing 'math glasses', you see the world through math colored glasses.