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| Started by | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| First post | 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 16:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:55 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-26 10:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:45 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-27 07:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:40 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:45 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:27 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 01:11 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:35 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 15:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:17 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 12:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 00:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 08:02 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-27 16:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 00:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-28 07:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 10:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 09:22 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:29 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 00:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55E0130E.359E@ix.netcom.com> |
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bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:33:48 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> > wrote: > > >On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:36:22 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > >alt.atheism with message-id <mrmlpq$6pf$3@dont-email.me> wrote: > > > >>On 2015-08-27 04:46 AM, Attila < wrote: > >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:44:03 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrkq9c$c1u$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2015-08-26 03:43 PM, Attila < wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:02:51 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrivk3$l6u$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-21 04:58 PM, Attila < wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's based on the knowledge of truth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is universal. Anyone who possesses such knowledge will understand > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Anyone who doesn't yet know such knowledge needs to learn from it. A > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophical book doesn't need to be scientifically accurate. It only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to reveal the truth it's trying to teach in its own way. It can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about bullshit, or make up a story, as long as it helps to explain > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect we have entirely different definitions of truth, because > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your's sounds nothing like mine. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. I'm talking about the metaphysical truth other than the empirical > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth of scientific theory. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, a 'truth' you can make up as you go along and which has no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship to the real world. It is a 'truth' because you say it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How convenient for you. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not at all. I can never describe what the truth is. No one can. I can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only point you to the truth for you to find out yourself. The truth is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> always self-evident and self-sufficient. The description of the truth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> serves no purpose and is often misleading. People who find the truth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will know and understand the truth all by themselves because the truth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is universal to all people. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Batshit crazy and dogshit dumb. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> That's about the right response you should have, I'm sure. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> It fits. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes. It best reflects your mental condition, but I'm not really > >>>>>>>>>> discriminating. It's quite natural and normal. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I will leave it to the observer to decide who is batshit crazy and > >>>>>>>>> dogshit dumb here, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Don't worry. I'm sure one day you will understand what I'm talking > >>>>>>>> about. It's really quite simple. There is nothing fancy. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There is nothing there. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is nothing there for you to see, but there is something within for > >>>>>> you to realize. People spend their entire life by staring into a blank > >>>>>> wall, hoping one day something will rise from the within, so they can > >>>>>> call themselves the Sages. > >>>>> > >>>>> In their cases drugs and strong drink usually produce the desired > >>>>> results. > >>>> > >>>> I tend to give them the credit if their story is true and their effort > >>>> is genuine. > >>> > >>> > >>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their > >>> effort? > >> > >>I don't know. I only wish them luck. > > > >So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you > >have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even > >discussing it? > > damn atilla you and that ninnyian have been going at this for a while ninnyian could possibly be a 'religious leader' which means ninnyian doesn't believe in God, his job is simply to convince others God exist....while atilla job is to convince others God does not exist and God lives deep in his heart....he's seeking confirmation of God.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 07:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qrl0ualtqaeh1cm07nr6jike2rf0q2rmgg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #362058 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:51:42 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> >> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:33:48 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> >> wrote: >> >> >On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:36:22 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> >alt.atheism with message-id <mrmlpq$6pf$3@dont-email.me> wrote: >> > >> >>On 2015-08-27 04:46 AM, Attila < wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:44:03 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrkq9c$c1u$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On 2015-08-26 03:43 PM, Attila < wrote: >> >>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:02:51 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrivk3$l6u$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-21 04:58 PM, Attila < wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's based on the knowledge of truth >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is universal. Anyone who possesses such knowledge will understand >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Anyone who doesn't yet know such knowledge needs to learn from it. A >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophical book doesn't need to be scientifically accurate. It only >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to reveal the truth it's trying to teach in its own way. It can >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about bullshit, or make up a story, as long as it helps to explain >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect we have entirely different definitions of truth, because >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your's sounds nothing like mine. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. I'm talking about the metaphysical truth other than the empirical >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth of scientific theory. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, a 'truth' you can make up as you go along and which has no >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship to the real world. It is a 'truth' because you say it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How convenient for you. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not at all. I can never describe what the truth is. No one can. I can >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only point you to the truth for you to find out yourself. The truth is >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> always self-evident and self-sufficient. The description of the truth >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> serves no purpose and is often misleading. People who find the truth >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will know and understand the truth all by themselves because the truth >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is universal to all people. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Batshit crazy and dogshit dumb. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> That's about the right response you should have, I'm sure. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> It fits. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes. It best reflects your mental condition, but I'm not really >> >>>>>>>>>> discriminating. It's quite natural and normal. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I will leave it to the observer to decide who is batshit crazy and >> >>>>>>>>> dogshit dumb here, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Don't worry. I'm sure one day you will understand what I'm talking >> >>>>>>>> about. It's really quite simple. There is nothing fancy. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> There is nothing there. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There is nothing there for you to see, but there is something within for >> >>>>>> you to realize. People spend their entire life by staring into a blank >> >>>>>> wall, hoping one day something will rise from the within, so they can >> >>>>>> call themselves the Sages. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> In their cases drugs and strong drink usually produce the desired >> >>>>> results. >> >>>> >> >>>> I tend to give them the credit if their story is true and their effort >> >>>> is genuine. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their >> >>> effort? >> >> >> >>I don't know. I only wish them luck. >> > >> >So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you >> >have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even >> >discussing it? >> >> damn atilla you and that ninnyian have been going at this for a while > > > >ninnyian could possibly be a 'religious leader' which means >ninnyian doesn't believe in God, his job is simply to convince others >God exist....while atilla >job is to convince others God does not exist and God lives deep in his >heart....he's seeking >confirmation of God. I know you would appreciate a witty response to you reply but You are a fucking moron, so fuck off
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 09:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <prn0uapc1ht15k31coljk7uc3o84vmm147@4ax.com> |
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:51:42 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55E0130E.359E@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their >> >>> effort? >> >> >> >>I don't know. I only wish them luck. >> > >> >So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you >> >have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even >> >discussing it? >> >> damn atilla you and that ninnyian have been going at this for a while > > > >ninnyian could possibly be a 'religious leader' which means >ninnyian doesn't believe in God, his job is simply to convince others >God exist....while atilla >job is to convince others God does not exist and God lives deep in his >heart....he's seeking >confirmation of God. I am not seeking confirmation of anything. I am showing those who claim some kind of god exists have nothing to support that claim. So far I have had complete success. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| Date | 2015-08-28 10:08 -0700 |
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Attila < wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:51:42 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > <55E0130E.359E@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> >>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their > >> >>> effort? > >> >> > >> >>I don't know. I only wish them luck. > >> > > >> >So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you > >> >have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even > >> >discussing it? > >> > >> damn atilla you and that ninnyian have been going at this for a while > > > > > > > >ninnyian could possibly be a 'religious leader' which means > >ninnyian doesn't believe in God, his job is simply to convince others > >God exist....while atilla > >job is to convince others God does not exist and God lives deep in his > >heart....he's seeking > >confirmation of God. > > I am not seeking confirmation of anything. I am showing those who > claim some kind of god exists have nothing to support that claim. So > far I have had complete success. Atheism is based on beliefs, not science, ...how do you confirm your belief God does not exist? I believe you believe God does not exist, nobody has a problem with your beliefs.. lots of people have beliefs that are wrong... atheist are one of those people. When are you people going to come up with an atheist bible? By the time an atheist writes one, they convert to another religion. They become agnostic then hare krishnas. Look at Richard Dawkins. He writse a book called The God Dellusion, and he converts to agnotism. Soon he'll be singing Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare Hare Rama, Hare Rama Rama, Rama, Hare, Hare Did he shaved off his hair yet?
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 05:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <n3t2uap67t7gptteqtv3o9sn1n2jkohoua@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #362106 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:08:37 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55E09595.5BC9@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:51:42 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <55E0130E.359E@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their >> >> >>> effort? >> >> >> >> >> >>I don't know. I only wish them luck. >> >> > >> >> >So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you >> >> >have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even >> >> >discussing it? >> >> >> >> damn atilla you and that ninnyian have been going at this for a while >> > >> > >> > >> >ninnyian could possibly be a 'religious leader' which means >> >ninnyian doesn't believe in God, his job is simply to convince others >> >God exist....while atilla >> >job is to convince others God does not exist and God lives deep in his >> >heart....he's seeking >> >confirmation of God. >> >> I am not seeking confirmation of anything. I am showing those who >> claim some kind of god exists have nothing to support that claim. So >> far I have had complete success. > >Atheism is based on beliefs, not science, ...how do you confirm your >belief God does not exist? > >I believe you believe God does not exist, nobody has a problem with your >beliefs.. Apparently you are unable to understand a position that does not include a belief. This is common among those who are conditioned into blindly accepting superstition as being reality. > >lots of people have beliefs that are wrong... > >atheist are one of those people. > > >When are you people going to come up with an atheist bible? By the time >an atheist writes one, they convert to another religion. No such document is necessary. > >They become agnostic then hare krishnas. > > >Look at Richard Dawkins. He writse a book called The God Dellusion, and >he converts to agnotism. I don't pretend to speak for anyone else. Nor does anyone else speak for me. > >Soon he'll be singing > >Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna >Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare >Hare Rama, Hare Rama >Rama, Rama, Hare, Hare > > >Did he shaved off his hair yet? Using an attempt at humor in place of a factual response is a common propaganda ploy. It's an attempt to hide what is missing. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 09:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55E1DC44.655B@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #362187 |
Attila < wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:08:37 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > <55E09595.5BC9@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Attila < wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:51:42 -0700, The Starmaker > >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > >> <55E0130E.359E@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> > >> >> >>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their > >> >> >>> effort? > >> >> >> > >> >> >>I don't know. I only wish them luck. > >> >> > > >> >> >So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you > >> >> >have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even > >> >> >discussing it? > >> >> > >> >> damn atilla you and that ninnyian have been going at this for a while > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >ninnyian could possibly be a 'religious leader' which means > >> >ninnyian doesn't believe in God, his job is simply to convince others > >> >God exist....while atilla > >> >job is to convince others God does not exist and God lives deep in his > >> >heart....he's seeking > >> >confirmation of God. > >> > >> I am not seeking confirmation of anything. I am showing those who > >> claim some kind of god exists have nothing to support that claim. So > >> far I have had complete success. > > > >Atheism is based on beliefs, not science, ...how do you confirm your > >belief God does not exist? > > > >I believe you believe God does not exist, nobody has a problem with your > >beliefs.. > > Apparently you are unable to understand a position that does not > include a belief. This is common among those who are conditioned into > blindly accepting superstition as being reality. > > > > >lots of people have beliefs that are wrong... > > > >atheist are one of those people. > > > > > >When are you people going to come up with an atheist bible? By the time > >an atheist writes one, they convert to another religion. > > No such document is necessary. > > > > >They become agnostic then hare krishnas. > > > > > >Look at Richard Dawkins. He writse a book called The God Dellusion, and > >he converts to agnotism. > > I don't pretend to speak for anyone else. You are the voice of the universe. It talks through you. You speak for someone else... do you know who that someone is?
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 11:04 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mroj06$2uc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #362014 |
On 2015-08-28 04:33 AM, Attila < wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:36:22 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mrmlpq$6pf$3@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-27 04:46 AM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:44:03 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrkq9c$c1u$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-26 03:43 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:02:51 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mrivk3$l6u$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-21 04:58 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's based on the knowledge of truth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is universal. Anyone who possesses such knowledge will understand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Anyone who doesn't yet know such knowledge needs to learn from it. A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophical book doesn't need to be scientifically accurate. It only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs to reveal the truth it's trying to teach in its own way. It can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about bullshit, or make up a story, as long as it helps to explain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect we have entirely different definitions of truth, because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your's sounds nothing like mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right. I'm talking about the metaphysical truth other than the empirical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth of scientific theory. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOW, a 'truth' you can make up as you go along and which has no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship to the real world. It is a 'truth' because you say it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How convenient for you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not at all. I can never describe what the truth is. No one can. I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only point you to the truth for you to find out yourself. The truth is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> always self-evident and self-sufficient. The description of the truth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> serves no purpose and is often misleading. People who find the truth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will know and understand the truth all by themselves because the truth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is universal to all people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Batshit crazy and dogshit dumb. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That's about the right response you should have, I'm sure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It fits. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes. It best reflects your mental condition, but I'm not really >>>>>>>>>> discriminating. It's quite natural and normal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will leave it to the observer to decide who is batshit crazy and >>>>>>>>> dogshit dumb here, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't worry. I'm sure one day you will understand what I'm talking >>>>>>>> about. It's really quite simple. There is nothing fancy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is nothing there. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is nothing there for you to see, but there is something within for >>>>>> you to realize. People spend their entire life by staring into a blank >>>>>> wall, hoping one day something will rise from the within, so they can >>>>>> call themselves the Sages. >>>>> >>>>> In their cases drugs and strong drink usually produce the desired >>>>> results. >>>> >>>> I tend to give them the credit if their story is true and their effort >>>> is genuine. >>> >>> >>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their >>> effort? >> >> I don't know. I only wish them luck. > > So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you > have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even > discussing it? I don't have to judge them when I have no idea what they have accomplished, but I do understand their practice even though some of them themselves may not yet know and understand what exactly they are trying to do. I mentioned them just to help you better understand my own point.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-28 09:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fon0ua12n8km8a0mr274lgqpf78n9pjbih@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #362043 |
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:04:15 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mroj06$2uc$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their >>>> effort? >>> >>> I don't know. I only wish them luck. >> >> So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you >> have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even >> discussing it? > >I don't have to judge them when I have no idea what they have >accomplished, but I do understand their practice even though some of >them themselves may not yet know and understand what exactly they are >trying to do. I mentioned them just to help you better understand my own >point. I understand your point and reject it. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-29 11:29 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mrr8rm$rul$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #362082 |
On 2015-08-28 09:16 PM, Attila < wrote: > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:04:15 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mroj06$2uc$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >>>>> How do you know if their story is true, and who cares about their >>>>> effort? >>>> >>>> I don't know. I only wish them luck. >>> >>> So you admit they can all be lying and just making stuff up yet you >>> have no idea if any of it is true or not. Then why bother even >>> discussing it? >> >> I don't have to judge them when I have no idea what they have >> accomplished, but I do understand their practice even though some of >> them themselves may not yet know and understand what exactly they are >> trying to do. I mentioned them just to help you better understand my own >> point. > > I understand your point and reject it. Really? Thanks anyway for spending time with me. :-)
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D2C157.314D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #361079 |
Attila < wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:04:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqpu6g$mgr$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > > >On 2015-08-16 04:08 PM, Attila < wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:28:51 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > >> alt.atheism with message-id <mqouen$fsa$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> > >>> On 2015-08-15 10:43 PM, talishi wrote: > >>>> niunian wrote: > >>>>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > >>>>>> niunian wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God > >>>>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of > >>>>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of > >>>>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the > >>>>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same > >>>>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the > >>>>>>> place of the previous creation God. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It turns out the previous creation God was manufactured as well. > >>>>>> Humans have manufactured at least 5,000 of them. > >>>>> > >>>>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > >>>>> your mind. > >>>> > >>>> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > >>>> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > >>>> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > >>>> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > >>> > >>> The Bible is a spiritual teaching that explains the philosophy of life. > >>> If you are not interested in that, there is no point to talk about the > >>> Bible at all. Go back to your science class and stay away from > >>> philosophy, then you will not be bothered by what's in the Bible. > >> > >> The problem is not what is in that book of myth, it is the way so many > >> people not only insist it is true but demand everyone else must accept > >> it as true also. > >> > >> There is no reason to fear any god but many reasons to fear your > >> god-fearing neighbors. > > > >Then, it's the people you have a problem with, so why blame a book? > > A book is nothing more than a repository of words. It isn't to blame > for anything. > > Just because something is written down has nothing to do with whether > it contains any truth or not, and it's age does the same. There was no Attila the Hun, was there...he's gay.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <p0o5ta1rl56e1f8qjgsre0hc9d6jaellvu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361160 |
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:23:35 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55D2C157.314D@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> The problem is not what is in that book of myth, it is the way so many >> >> people not only insist it is true but demand everyone else must accept >> >> it as true also. >> >> >> >> There is no reason to fear any god but many reasons to fear your >> >> god-fearing neighbors. >> > >> >Then, it's the people you have a problem with, so why blame a book? >> >> A book is nothing more than a repository of words. It isn't to blame >> for anything. >> >> Just because something is written down has nothing to do with whether >> it contains any truth or not, and it's age does the same. > > > >There was no Attila the Hun, was there...he's gay. The existence of Attila the Hun is verified by a number of historical accounts written by different people from different points of view and with no particular agenda to present or support. I have no idea if he was gay or not - that is irrelevant. I chose the name because of his alternate nickname - The Scourge of God. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D2E3FC.478B@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #361175 |
Attila < wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:23:35 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > <55D2C157.314D@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> >> The problem is not what is in that book of myth, it is the way so many > >> >> people not only insist it is true but demand everyone else must accept > >> >> it as true also. > >> >> > >> >> There is no reason to fear any god but many reasons to fear your > >> >> god-fearing neighbors. > >> > > >> >Then, it's the people you have a problem with, so why blame a book? > >> > >> A book is nothing more than a repository of words. It isn't to blame > >> for anything. > >> > >> Just because something is written down has nothing to do with whether > >> it contains any truth or not, and it's age does the same. > > > > > > > >There was no Attila the Hun, was there...he's gay. > > The existence of Attila the Hun is verified by a number of historical > accounts written by different people from different points of view and > with no particular agenda to present or support. But you wrote: "Just because something is written down has nothing to do with whether it contains any truth or not,.." So how do you know what accounts written by different people about Attila the Hun is true or not? Or Jesus Christ?
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9l67ta1kibsl723sv01e4t4uojbk2tket6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #361177 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 00:51:24 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55D2E3FC.478B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:23:35 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <55D2C157.314D@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> The problem is not what is in that book of myth, it is the way so many >> >> >> people not only insist it is true but demand everyone else must accept >> >> >> it as true also. >> >> >> >> >> >> There is no reason to fear any god but many reasons to fear your >> >> >> god-fearing neighbors. >> >> > >> >> >Then, it's the people you have a problem with, so why blame a book? >> >> >> >> A book is nothing more than a repository of words. It isn't to blame >> >> for anything. >> >> >> >> Just because something is written down has nothing to do with whether >> >> it contains any truth or not, and it's age does the same. >> > >> > >> > >> >There was no Attila the Hun, was there...he's gay. >> >> The existence of Attila the Hun is verified by a number of historical >> accounts written by different people from different points of view and >> with no particular agenda to present or support. > >But you wrote: > >"Just because something is written down has nothing to do with whether >it contains any truth or not,.." Correct. It requires verification by other unrelated sources, as many as possible. > > >So how do you know what accounts written by different people about >Attila the Hun is true or not? They are numerous, agree in detail, are by a variety of people from both his supporters and his enemies, and the people involved had no agenda to support. > >Or Jesus Christ? No evidence he ever existed, one single source commonly used that is not independently verified anywhere, the exact author or authors are unknown (or at least unverified), are hardly independent, all support the statements and claims made, and definitely have an agenda to support. Not to mention being translated numerous times into various other languages and having been edited as to content to insure conformity. A total failure in every respect. There is as much support for the existence of the Tooth Fairy. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d38vvcFkv0rU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #360856 |
On 15/08/2015 09:11, niunian wrote: > The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God of > creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of Adam and > Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of living, the > giver of life who is always good. The second God is the God of sin who > is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same God. The sin has > introduced or manufactured another God in the place of the previous > creation God. Lovely family tree you cobbled together there....
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqouen$fsa$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #360873 |
On 2015-08-15 10:17 PM, Alex W. wrote: > On 15/08/2015 09:11, niunian wrote: > >> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God of >> creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of Adam and >> Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of living, the >> giver of life who is always good. The second God is the God of sin who >> is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same God. The sin has >> introduced or manufactured another God in the place of the previous >> creation God. > > Lovely family tree you cobbled together there.... Yes, I was afraid of that.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <visusa5896t5v0cjudkl0ilma648epan2s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #360825 |
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:51:04 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote: >>>> >>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the >>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>> >>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life? >>>> >>>> WHy should death be evil? >>> >>> Because killing life is evil. >> >> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more >> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets >> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than >> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for >> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked >> >>> >>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life. Decay and death feeds new >>>> growth. Death is *good*. >>>> >>> >>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. >>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence. >> >> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people, >> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy >> that god of yours >> > >Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from >the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living >only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of hey buddy whatever you have to tell yourself to wake up in the morning is fine with me, but the truth is if you want to believe in this god of yous then you must believe the only history and ONLY informatin available which is the bible, so everything I said about what your god is, to you and every other theist, holds true. so you go on worshiping a murderer, rapist, torturer, pedofile. egomaniac. >nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living >things does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has >killed himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing. no what is stupid is for you to continue to tell your self lies so that you can believe the lie that your imaginary god is real
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqoueo$fsa$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #360906 |
On 2015-08-16 01:14 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:51:04 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the >>>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life? >>>>> >>>>> WHy should death be evil? >>>> >>>> Because killing life is evil. >>> >>> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more >>> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets >>> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than >>> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for >>> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked >>> >>>> >>>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life. Decay and death feeds new >>>>> growth. Death is *good*. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. >>>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence. >>> >>> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people, >>> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy >>> that god of yours >>> >> >> Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from >> the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living >> only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of > > hey buddy whatever you have to tell yourself to wake up in the morning > is fine with me, but the truth is if you want to believe in this god > of yous then you must believe the only history and ONLY informatin > available which is the bible, so everything I said about what your god > is, to you and every other theist, holds true. so you go on > worshiping a murderer, rapist, torturer, pedofile. egomaniac. Except I don't. I only worship the God of living. I don't worship the God of killing. That's a different God. > >> nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living >> things does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has >> killed himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing. > > no what is stupid is for you to continue to tell your self lies so > that you can believe the lie that your imaginary god is real > Empty claim without evidence. Where did I lie?
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <17j0ta5eg88k092u6fshesltt31pt6dh7i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #360951 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:36:40 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-16 01:14 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:51:04 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the >>>>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life? >>>>>> >>>>>> WHy should death be evil? >>>>> >>>>> Because killing life is evil. >>>> >>>> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more >>>> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets >>>> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than >>>> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for >>>> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life. Decay and death feeds new >>>>>> growth. Death is *good*. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. >>>>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence. >>>> >>>> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people, >>>> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy >>>> that god of yours >>>> >>> >>> Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from >>> the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living >>> only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of >> >> hey buddy whatever you have to tell yourself to wake up in the morning >> is fine with me, but the truth is if you want to believe in this god >> of yous then you must believe the only history and ONLY informatin >> available which is the bible, so everything I said about what your god >> is, to you and every other theist, holds true. so you go on >> worshiping a murderer, rapist, torturer, pedofile. egomaniac. > >Except I don't. I only worship the God of living. I don't worship the >God of killing. That's a different God. ah now I understand you other post about there beng two gods.... It would seem that you have just confirmed you ability to act just like a christian.... > >> >>> nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living >>> things does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has >>> killed himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing. >> >> no what is stupid is for you to continue to tell your self lies so >> that you can believe the lie that your imaginary god is real >> > >Empty claim without evidence. Where did I lie? well you previos post made no sense, just like what you just said. Senseless jibber jabber.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqpuig$o4p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #360969 |
On 2015-08-16 04:42 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:36:40 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-16 01:14 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:51:04 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>>>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the >>>>>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHy should death be evil? >>>>>> >>>>>> Because killing life is evil. >>>>> >>>>> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more >>>>> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets >>>>> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than >>>>> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for >>>>> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life. Decay and death feeds new >>>>>>> growth. Death is *good*. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. >>>>>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence. >>>>> >>>>> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people, >>>>> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy >>>>> that god of yours >>>>> >>>> >>>> Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from >>>> the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living >>>> only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of >>> >>> hey buddy whatever you have to tell yourself to wake up in the morning >>> is fine with me, but the truth is if you want to believe in this god >>> of yous then you must believe the only history and ONLY informatin >>> available which is the bible, so everything I said about what your god >>> is, to you and every other theist, holds true. so you go on >>> worshiping a murderer, rapist, torturer, pedofile. egomaniac. >> >> Except I don't. I only worship the God of living. I don't worship the >> God of killing. That's a different God. > > ah now I understand you other post about there beng two gods.... It > would seem that you have just confirmed you ability to act just like a > christian.... I'm not. I'm just a believer of God. I don't belong to any religion, but I'm familiar with the Christian faith. >> >>> >>>> nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living >>>> things does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has >>>> killed himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing. >>> >>> no what is stupid is for you to continue to tell your self lies so >>> that you can believe the lie that your imaginary god is real >>> >> >> Empty claim without evidence. Where did I lie? > > well you previos post made no sense, just like what you just said. > Senseless jibber jabber. > That's too bad. I try my best to make it as simple as possible. :-)
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <4jf1ta150bn385m7hr9gqctt0i0lhfla0u@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #360982 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:11:12 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >On 2015-08-16 04:42 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:36:40 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-16 01:14 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:51:04 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the >>>>>>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WHy should death be evil? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because killing life is evil. >>>>>> >>>>>> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more >>>>>> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets >>>>>> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than >>>>>> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for >>>>>> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life. Decay and death feeds new >>>>>>>> growth. Death is *good*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. >>>>>>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence. >>>>>> >>>>>> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people, >>>>>> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy >>>>>> that god of yours >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from >>>>> the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living >>>>> only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of >>>> >>>> hey buddy whatever you have to tell yourself to wake up in the morning >>>> is fine with me, but the truth is if you want to believe in this god >>>> of yous then you must believe the only history and ONLY informatin >>>> available which is the bible, so everything I said about what your god >>>> is, to you and every other theist, holds true. so you go on >>>> worshiping a murderer, rapist, torturer, pedofile. egomaniac. >>> >>> Except I don't. I only worship the God of living. I don't worship the >>> God of killing. That's a different God. >> >> ah now I understand you other post about there beng two gods.... It >> would seem that you have just confirmed you ability to act just like a >> christian.... > >I'm not. I'm just a believer of God. I don't belong to any religion, but >I'm familiar with the Christian faith. and you are just as fickle as those christian idiots > >>> >>>> >>>>> nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living >>>>> things does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has >>>>> killed himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing. >>>> >>>> no what is stupid is for you to continue to tell your self lies so >>>> that you can believe the lie that your imaginary god is real >>>> >>> >>> Empty claim without evidence. Where did I lie? >> >> well you previos post made no sense, just like what you just said. >> Senseless jibber jabber. >> > >That's too bad. I try my best to make it as simple as possible.
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