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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Started byChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
First post2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
Last post2015-08-12 12:35 +0800
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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 09:58 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-11 10:14 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 13:01 -0400
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-11 23:26 +0800
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 00:24 +0800
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-11 13:36 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:58 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:23 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 08:48 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:13 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 20:57 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:39 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:48 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 15:26 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-13 07:26 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:03 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-12 17:49 -0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 18:08 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-13 00:27 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:00 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-12 19:24 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:53 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:58 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 15:56 +0800
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:37 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:25 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-13 06:13 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 14:20 +0100
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:39 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 23:59 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:15 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:44 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:30 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:26 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:30 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:11 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:31 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:25 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:02 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:46 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:45 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:15 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-16 22:04 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 15:15 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 00:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:22 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2015-08-17 10:27 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:50 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:28 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:48 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:00 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:24 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 06:45 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:33 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:35 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:22 -0500
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 12:47 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 01:08 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:36 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-16 14:29 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-16 15:04 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:53 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:30 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 10:08 +0800
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-19 17:23 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-20 14:11 -0500
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:00 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-22 14:12 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:53 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-23 10:57 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 16:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-24 17:42 -0500
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-25 16:06 -0500
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:41 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:55 -0700
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-26 10:45 -0500
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:45 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-27 07:19 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:04 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:40 +0800
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:32 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:45 +0800
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:45 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:31 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:48 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:33 +0800
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:41 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:58 +0800
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:25 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:27 +0800
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 01:15 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:09 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:18 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 10:00 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:06 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:44 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:40 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 22:18 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:18 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:35 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:12 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 01:11 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-01 11:07 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-30 23:38 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:37 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-31 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-09-01 02:57 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-31 05:36 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 12:18 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:57 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-02 21:15 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 00:46 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:27 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 00:17 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 00:29 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-08 22:46 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:11 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-04 13:35 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-30 10:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-30 11:26 -0400
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-13 15:53 +0100
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:08 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:17 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-14 04:50 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-14 12:53 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-14 06:54 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-14 14:16 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 07:51 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mike M <mike@xenocyte.com> - 2015-08-15 06:41 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 15:14 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:49 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:17 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 12:45 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 22:32 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 00:08 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:46 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:43 -0700
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:00 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:49 +0800
                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 08:02 +0800
                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:43 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:44 +0800
                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:46 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 17:36 +0800
                                                                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-27 16:33 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-27 16:47 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 00:51 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-28 07:44 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:19 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-28 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-29 05:03 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-29 09:22 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:04 +0800
                                                                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-28 09:16 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-29 11:29 +0800
                                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
                                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
                                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
                                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 12:14 -0500
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:36 +0800
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:42 -0500
                                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:11 +0800
                                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 11:48 -0500
                                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:58 +0800
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-15 12:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 19:59 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 10:33 +0800
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:47 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:34 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:36 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-13 13:10 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 13:25 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 17:49 +0800
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:41 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 15:08 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-12 20:04 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 15:38 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:57 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-12 07:29 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:44 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-11 20:23 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:14 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:55 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 16:00 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 07:51 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-13 20:49 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-13 09:46 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:18 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-14 03:19 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-14 18:25 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-15 05:34 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:30 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 12:59 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 15:03 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 19:30 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 04:19 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-12 12:36 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "W.TS." <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-12 20:53 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:20 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-12 10:01 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 21:16 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Tom McDonald <tmcdonald2672@charter.net> - 2015-08-11 20:22 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-11 21:49 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:53 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-11 14:51 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2015-08-12 12:35 +0800

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#361760

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
Message-ID<4fdnta936hho4v7r95btr3c15vicc2obj7@4ax.com>
In reply to#361755
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:42:22 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<9d7ntad1bod3dnloidgh432ai3jp0v5v1f@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:59:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:57:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><sarjtadalabjesdhv3q5i1qohoqa4a0bjl@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>>>>>>existed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>>>>>
>>>>>>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>>>>>>get a ladder.  And a shovel.
>>>>>
>>>>>You're in a hole.
>>>>
>>>>Not at all.
>>>
>>>You just accepted that you were.
>>
>>Amusing.
>>
>>I was discussing what you pile so high and deep.  That smelly stuff.
>
>You had to get out of the crap to get a ladder so you could get out of the crap?
>Now I understand.

As deep as you pile it a ladder is barely usable.


>
>>>>>  Where are you going to get a ladder and a shovel?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The same place you got your god.
>>>
>>
>>No snappy comeback?
>

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
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#361840

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-25 16:06 -0500
Message-ID<d3mptatngkoe4u5aiheufi5ksubp41qr9b@4ax.com>
In reply to#361760
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:26:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:42:22 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><9d7ntad1bod3dnloidgh432ai3jp0v5v1f@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:59:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:57:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><sarjtadalabjesdhv3q5i1qohoqa4a0bjl@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>>>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>>>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>>>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>>>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>>>>>>>existed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>>>>>>>get a ladder.  And a shovel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You're in a hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>Not at all.
>>>>
>>>>You just accepted that you were.
>>>
>>>Amusing.
>>>
>>>I was discussing what you pile so high and deep.  That smelly stuff.
>>
>>You had to get out of the crap to get a ladder so you could get out of the crap?
>>Now I understand.
>
>As deep as you pile it a ladder is barely usable.

Well, you're the one digging your way out of the crap.  Personally you got
yourself in it, so you get yourself out of it.  But remember, it doesn't do any
good to go get a ladder so you can dig yourself out of a hole of crap.


the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#361878

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-26 03:41 -0400
Message-ID<j9rqtad4ju79i19mnsfejbbnueiru0s8tt@4ax.com>
In reply to#361840
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:06:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<d3mptatngkoe4u5aiheufi5ksubp41qr9b@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:26:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:42:22 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><9d7ntad1bod3dnloidgh432ai3jp0v5v1f@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:59:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:57:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><sarjtadalabjesdhv3q5i1qohoqa4a0bjl@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>>>>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>>>>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>>>>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>>>>>>>>existed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>>>>>>>>get a ladder.  And a shovel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You're in a hole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>You just accepted that you were.
>>>>
>>>>Amusing.
>>>>
>>>>I was discussing what you pile so high and deep.  That smelly stuff.
>>>
>>>You had to get out of the crap to get a ladder so you could get out of the crap?
>>>Now I understand.
>>
>>As deep as you pile it a ladder is barely usable.
>
>Well, you're the one digging your way out of the crap.  Personally you got
>yourself in it, so you get yourself out of it.  But remember, it doesn't do any
>good to go get a ladder so you can dig yourself out of a hole of crap.
>
It's your crap.

I suspect your parents had a lot to do with your brainwashing when you
were growing up.  If so that makes you the poster boy for considering
religious indoctrination child abuse.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361883

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-08-26 00:55 -0700
Message-ID<55DD70DF.4302@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#361878
You people
don't actually
believe 
that religious
leaders
actually believe in
God, do you????


I mean...
look at your
yellow pages..
it's where the
places of 
worship
are 
listed.


Even today
some of yous
(if not most of yous)
act if
Doctors
are like
God.

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#361896

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-26 10:45 -0500
Message-ID<llnrta9g0sr4sfnms54ik1sp4g9rlr5v9t@4ax.com>
In reply to#361878
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:41:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:06:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><d3mptatngkoe4u5aiheufi5ksubp41qr9b@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:26:16 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:42:22 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><9d7ntad1bod3dnloidgh432ai3jp0v5v1f@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:59:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:57:56 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><sarjtadalabjesdhv3q5i1qohoqa4a0bjl@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The definition of God as the living source and energy of all living things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Occam's Razor violation by adding an unnecessary and unsupported
>>>>>>>>>>>>>function to deities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gods are spirits detected by that small percentage of the population who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>have direct personal observation of the spirits of the world.  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>majority has always had no direct personal observation of the spirits if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the world so some take their existence on faith others disbelieve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>God as a singluar being is a second Occam's razor violation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>God is creator of all things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You have yet to offer any unambiguous and direct evidence any god ever
>>>>>>>>>>>existed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>At this stage, what I would have to offer is totally over your head.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You do tend to pile it higher and deeper but I can hold my breath and
>>>>>>>>>get a ladder.  And a shovel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You're in a hole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You just accepted that you were.
>>>>>
>>>>>Amusing.
>>>>>
>>>>>I was discussing what you pile so high and deep.  That smelly stuff.
>>>>
>>>>You had to get out of the crap to get a ladder so you could get out of the crap?
>>>>Now I understand.
>>>
>>>As deep as you pile it a ladder is barely usable.
>>
>>Well, you're the one digging your way out of the crap.  Personally you got
>>yourself in it, so you get yourself out of it.  But remember, it doesn't do any
>>good to go get a ladder so you can dig yourself out of a hole of crap.

>It's your crap.
>I suspect your parents had a lot to do with your brainwashing when you
>were growing up.  If so that makes you the poster boy for considering
>religious indoctrination child abuse.

Did you get out of the hole so you could go get a ladder to get out of the hole.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#361926

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-26 16:45 -0400
Message-ID<a99sta993pttu4hk04u2t3fsiauarnqfk6@4ax.com>
In reply to#361896
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 10:45:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<llnrta9g0sr4sfnms54ik1sp4g9rlr5v9t@4ax.com> wrote:

>>>Well, you're the one digging your way out of the crap.  Personally you got
>>>yourself in it, so you get yourself out of it.  But remember, it doesn't do any
>>>good to go get a ladder so you can dig yourself out of a hole of crap.
>
>>It's your crap.
>>I suspect your parents had a lot to do with your brainwashing when you
>>were growing up.  If so that makes you the poster boy for considering
>>religious indoctrination child abuse.
>
>Did you get out of the hole so you could go get a ladder to get out of the hole.

You are hung in one of your loops again.  You have proven you can do
this indefinitely.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361979

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-27 07:19 -0500
Message-ID<220uta5k1lc799e1kqd1evij7eq3mlsqv0@4ax.com>
In reply to#361926
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:45:28 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 10:45:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><llnrta9g0sr4sfnms54ik1sp4g9rlr5v9t@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Well, you're the one digging your way out of the crap.  Personally you got
>>>>yourself in it, so you get yourself out of it.  But remember, it doesn't do any
>>>>good to go get a ladder so you can dig yourself out of a hole of crap.
>>
>>>It's your crap.
>>>I suspect your parents had a lot to do with your brainwashing when you
>>>were growing up.  If so that makes you the poster boy for considering
>>>religious indoctrination child abuse.
>>
>>Did you get out of the hole so you could go get a ladder to get out of the hole.
>
>You are hung in one of your loops again.  You have proven you can do
>this indefinitely.

Truth is like that.  It doesn't change.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#360954

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Message-ID<mqp6u5$ah8$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#360684
In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:

> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>
>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>
>> Um, what definition is that?
>
> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
> world of death.

And what definition is _that_?

-- wds

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#360976

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Message-ID<mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#360954
On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>
>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>
>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>
>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>> world of death.
>
> And what definition is _that_?

It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all 
living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of 
living will cease to exist.

>
> -- wds
>

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#360996

From"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Message-ID<d3bj8sFag85U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#360976
On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>
>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>
>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>> world of death.
>>
>> And what definition is _that_?
>
> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
> living will cease to exist.

<looks around>

No god, and everything is still here...

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#361048

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Message-ID<mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#360996
On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>
>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>> world of death.
>>>
>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>
>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>> living will cease to exist.
>
> <looks around>
>
> No god, and everything is still here...

The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, 
there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's 
called a realization from the within.

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#361076

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Message-ID<itb3tapsfbkti28g2cgndc14k19p0dkfda@4ax.com>
In reply to#361048
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>> world of death.
>>>>
>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>
>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>> living will cease to exist.
>>
>> <looks around>
>>
>> No god, and everything is still here...
>
>The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around, 
>there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's 
>called a realization from the within.

It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361081

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Message-ID<mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#361076
On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>
>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>
>>> <looks around>
>>>
>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>
>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>> called a realization from the within.
>
> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.

Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was 
from the within?

>
> --
> Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.
>
> Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially
> those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.
>
> Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government
> guaranteed above average income for every person.
>
> Every illegal alien is a criminal.
> No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
> Deportation upon identification as the only option.
>
> If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
> before you run into me.
>

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#361140

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Message-ID<v7p4talkqbn8j31s961hmht11oikhaoek8@4ax.com>
In reply to#361081
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:49:19 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>
>>>> <looks around>
>>>>
>>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>>
>>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>>> called a realization from the within.
>>
>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>
>Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was 
>from the within?

I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361166

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Message-ID<mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#361140
On 2015-08-18 06:50 AM, Attila < wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:49:19 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdi$7bt$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-17 05:56 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 10:52:33 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqri7d$uc4$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-08-16 09:58 PM, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down
>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the
>>>>>>>> world of death.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all
>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the world of
>>>>>> living will cease to exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> <looks around>
>>>>>
>>>>> No god, and everything is still here...
>>>>
>>>> The God of living is from within, not without. So stop looking around,
>>>> there is nothing you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears. It's
>>>> called a realization from the within.
>>>
>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>
>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>from the within?
>
> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.

I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same 
way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The 
spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.

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#361171

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Message-ID<5fn5tahgjehhh0o2ip3hbkffu90qvri5m8@4ax.com>
In reply to#361166
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>
>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>from the within?
>>
>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>
>I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same 
>way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The 
>spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.

As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
existed.  That still holds true.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361247

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Message-ID<mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#361171
On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>> >from the within?
>>>
>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>
>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>
> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
> existed.  That still holds true.

I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.

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#361276

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Message-ID<4sf8tap9a9com2ur4ta9ro498p65vl0frl@4ax.com>
In reply to#361247
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>> >from the within?
>>>>
>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>
>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>
>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>> existed.  That still holds true.
>
>I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.

But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
history I would have long since been executed for heresy.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#361287

Fromniunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Date2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Message-ID<mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#361276
On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>>> >from the within?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>>
>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>>> existed.  That still holds true.
>>
>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.
>
> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
> history I would have long since been executed for heresy.

Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here 
by being wilfully blind?


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#361358

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Message-ID<vi5btal4pmc4pcmcbn5en5rqrco730i6lr@4ax.com>
In reply to#361287
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:41:05 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <mr202n$ikl$4@dont-email.me> wrote:

>On 2015-08-19 04:35 PM, Attila < wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:26:37 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <mr0hqp$2h7$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-18 03:26 PM, Attila < wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:33:08 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like ambiguous poppycock to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why? Is it because no one ever told you that the spiritual world was
>>>>>> >from the within?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever existed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid your physical eyes can not see the spiritual world the same
>>>>> way your physical science can not prove or disprove philosophy. The
>>>>> spiritual existence is beyond the ability of your physical eyes.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I have yet to see any evidence any 'spiritual world' ever
>>>> existed.  That still holds true.
>>>
>>> I'm afraid no one can force you to see what you don't want to see.
>>
>> But history shows that isn't from a lack of trying.  For most of
>> history I would have long since been executed for heresy.
>
>Irrelevant. Are you suggesting you are playing some kind of hero in here 
>by being wilfully blind?
>
>

Not at all.  It would be a bit difficult to do anything to me since I
am not here physically.  

I am far from blind.  I simply have not been brainwashed to accept
that which has no supporting evidence.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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