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Re: the famous formula

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: the famous formula
Date	2018-12-08 14:03 +0100
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Am 07.12.2018 um 17:57 schrieb Libor Striz:
> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> Wrote in message:
>>
>> Energy is a scalar unit, hence cannot become negative and has no direction.
> 
> Being a scalar does not say it cannot be negative.
> 
> Total energy is positive, indeed.
> 
> But e.g. the kinematic energy of a bound object is negative,
> as it's kinetic energy is smaller than the energy needed
> to break the bound.
> 
>>
>> Work is a vectorial unit and has a direction and can eventually become
>> negative
> 
> Work  is a scalar, not a vector.
> 
> dW = vec_F . d(vec_L)
> W = path integral of dW along path L.
> 
> dW as a dot product of 2 vectors is a scalar.
> 

I do not regard a distance as a vector.

Sure. It is often done, but I do not agree.

The path along a line is not a distance, since a path is a function of time.

The reason why a distance is not a vector is this:
a vector has a direction, but a distance between two spot on the same 
line has no direction, since it is the same distance from A to B as from 
B to A.

Since force is directed, work should be a vector and the amount is then 
energy.

TH
>>
>> But I personally think, the equation (E=m*c²) needs also 'deltas', since
>> 'mass lost' addresses a difference, for what you should use a delta.
>>
>>
> dE/dm is not function of m,
> therefore dE/dm=E/m=c^2
>

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