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Re: A Particle Model of Light

From Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: A Particle Model of Light
Date 2015-12-26 21:57 +0300
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Gary Harnagel about
http://bourabai.kz/shtyrkov/shtyrkov.pdf :

> but  there  was no error analysis, which makes the
> numbers and conclusions meaningless.

Less credible -- sure, but why meaningless?  Whereas
he  got  a  sinusoidal  signal instead of noise, the
random error is small enough, and if the  singal  is
to  be  accounted  for  by a systematic error then I
ought to ask what kind of error would produce a  di-
urnally  varying lag between the actual and observed
locations?  I agree that the question is better  ad-
dressed to Shtyrkov, though.

The  corresponding  Russian article mentions briefly
that meausurement accuracy was about 10% but the av-
eraging  over  many  observations yielded a precise-
enough result: the observed average orbital velocity
(29.4 km/s) coincides with the value accepted in as-
tronomy (29.8 km/s) to about 1%.  Is it  a  miracle?
Tom  Roberts  thinks  that  this  value  arose  from
Shtyrkov's correction for a non-existent aberration,
but I did not understand what he meant.

> That  the  "measured"  motion only varied by 1% is
> very strange because that means any supposed ether
> whould  be  virtually  stationary wrt the sun, yet
> the sun is orbiting the galaxy at 200 km/sec.  The
> whole thing smells really bad.

No,  it is simply that the galactic component of the
ether wind (declinaton of 89.5  degrees)  is  nearly
coincidental  with  the polar axis and has therefore
but a tiny effect on  diurnal  aberration  from  the
satellite.

To  explain -- the  diurnal  variations of the ether
wind in the plane orthogonal to the  source-observer
line  are caused mainly by the rotation of the Earth
as it changes orientation with respect  to  its  or-
bital  speed, while the galactic component, having a
near-zero  projection  upon  the  equatorial  plane,
causes only a negligible variation.

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Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:49 +0300
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-26 04:38 -0800
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-26 15:06 +0000
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 21:57 +0300
      Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-26 13:17 -0800
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-27 12:15 +0000
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 15:40 +0300
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-27 12:41 +0000
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 20:11 +0300
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 14:32 -0800
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 22:05 +0300
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-02 16:24 -0800
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-03 12:57 -0600
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:26 -0800
              Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:13 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:21 -0800
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-03 12:26 -0600
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-03 18:48 +0000
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 05:29 -0800
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 20:19 +0300
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 11:15 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 01:03 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 17:28 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 15:41 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 05:02 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 21:00 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 01:04 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 18:45 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 08:33 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 20:50 -0800
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-05 19:50 -0600
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-06 15:33 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-06 12:40 -0600
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-07 22:27 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 19:15 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-09 14:00 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-09 14:02 +0000

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