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Re: A Particle Model of Light

From Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: A Particle Model of Light
Date 2016-01-08 19:15 +0300
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Kathleen Winder to Tom Roberts:

> > READ THE PAPER. The time dependence for Miller's
> > background (in this run) at each marker is given
> > in  figure  10.  It is none of your guesses; not
> > even close.
>
> We agree.  The dependency is not on time,  but  on
> temperature/strain and gravity.  He used malleable
> Iron girders,  instead  of  something  with  rigid
> crystal structure, as ceramics or stones.  I don't
> need to read the paper, is clear already.  I  won-
> der  how  he could allow himself coming out saying
> this and that, without thinking  on  things  which
> were obvious before the start of the "experiment".

If  you  had read Miller's address at the Mt. Wilson
conference:

  http://ether-wind.narod.ru/Conference_1927/Conference_1927.pdf

and his detailed 1933 report

  http://ether-wind.narod.ru/Miller_1933/Miller1933_ocr.pdf

telling about his experiments you  would  know  that
the effects of temperature and magnetostriction were
taken into account and exhaustively tested, e.g.:

  Before announcing such a result, it seemed  neces-
  sary  to  study  every  possible cause which might
  produce a displace- ment  of  fringes  similar  to
  that caused by ether- drift; among the causes sug-
  gested were radiant heat,  centrifugal  and  gyro-
  static   action,  irregular  gravitation  effects,
  yielding of the foundation, magnetic  polarization
  and  magnetostriction.   In   order  to  test  the
  first, the metal parts of the interferometer  were
  completely covered with cork about one inch thick,
  and fifty sets of observations consisting  of  273
  turns were made; there was a periodic displacement
  of the fringes,  as  in  the  first  observations,
  showing  that radiant heat is not the cause of the
  observed effect.

and that the strain on the interferometer  was  zero
while it flowed in its mercury pool.

Do  you  think  that  temperature oscillatons in the
room could be so rapid and  strong  as  to  cause  a
high-frequency noise in the heavy metal interferome-
ter?  I think not, becuase metal works as a heat ca-
pacitor,  or  a high-pass filter for temperature os-
cillations!

As to gravity, how much could it change  during  the
eightteen  minutes required one "data run"?  I doubt
it could produce high-frequency  noise  either,  be-
cause  it would chagne slowly and monotonously, just
like the temperature.

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Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 14:49 +0300
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-26 04:38 -0800
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-26 15:06 +0000
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 21:57 +0300
      Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-26 13:17 -0800
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-27 12:15 +0000
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 15:40 +0300
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Waye Kitchens <wscom@complang.net> - 2015-12-27 12:41 +0000
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 20:11 +0300
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 14:32 -0800
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 22:05 +0300
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-02 16:24 -0800
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-03 12:57 -0600
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:26 -0800
              Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:13 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 13:21 -0800
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-03 12:26 -0600
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-03 18:48 +0000
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 05:29 -0800
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 20:19 +0300
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 11:15 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 01:03 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 17:28 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 15:41 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 05:02 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 21:00 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 01:04 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 18:45 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 08:33 -0800
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 20:50 -0800
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-05 19:50 -0600
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-06 15:33 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-01-06 12:40 -0600
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Kathleen Winder <katwin@mcgatlin.org> - 2016-01-07 22:27 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 19:15 +0300
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-09 14:00 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Carmine Portacio <carpo@trilogybearing.org> - 2016-01-09 14:02 +0000

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